March 11, 1901

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (Hon. Sydney A. Fisher).

I have no knowledge of the statement referred to. The departmental printing will be treated in the

Copies of all orders in council, correspondence, contracts or agreements between the government or the Department of Public Works or any member of the government as such, or any officers of any department of the government and Nicholas K. Connolly and Michael Connolly, contractors, referring to the building of the Long Wharf Terminal Improvements at St. John, New Brunswick ; also what payments have been made on same and the date of said payments.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS (Hon. J. I. Tarte).

I do not believe there has been any correspondence at all between the Public Works Department and Messrs. N. K. and Michael Connolly. I am under the impression that correspondence, if any, was with the Department of Railways and Canals. Since I have been in office, I am sure that there has been no correspondence between the Department of Public Works and these gentlemen, and no work carried on by them in my department. My hon friend must be mistaken.

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Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HUGHES (North Victoria).

I do not know anything about it, but merely put the question in the absence of Mr. Fowler, and at his request.

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Motion agreed to.


MOTIONS AGREED TO WITHOUT DISCUSSION.


Copy of all correspondence between the Canadian and British governments relating to commissions to he granted Canadian officers in the British army.-Mr. Bourassa. Copy of all correspondence relating to the recruiting of the South African police force in Canada; also copies of all offers or requests made since last session of parliament for new Canadian troops for South Africa, including correspondence with the British government on both matters.-Mr. Bourassa. Copies of all correspondence with the Department of Railways relative to the building of a line of railway between Sydney and East Bay, in the county of Cape Breton, and copies of any reports made to department having reference to this matter.-Mr. Johnston (Cape Breton.) Copies of all papers, correspondence and claims made in connection with the alleged non-observ-



ance of the fair-wage clause in the contract for the construction of the St. Andrews lock-Mr. Puttee. Return of all correspondence between the government or any officer thereof and Col. Van Wagner, relating to the retirement of that officer from the command of the Hamilton Field Battery; and also the authority for considering Col. Van Wagner as a ' commanding officer,' and thus bringing that officer under the operation of the ' five years tenure of command law.'-Mr. Hughes (Victoria.) Copies of all contracts connected with the improvements at Sydney Railway yard and at North Sydney Junction ; also a statement of all prices paid per cubic yard for earth (different kinds) and rock (different kinds), and for borrowing for embankment under said contract and in connection with said improvements ; also how much was paid for ditching, clearing and close cutting and grubbing, per acre or per hundred feet ; also for culvert masonry, retaining walls, cattle guards and crossings, fencing and gates.-Hon. Sir Charles Hibbert Tupper, by Mr. Borden (Halifax). Return showing: (a) Net receipts and expenditures of the Intercolonial Railway for each month from 30th June, 1899, up to the 1st day of March, 1901. (b) The expenditure on capital account with respect to the Intercolonial Railway for each month from 30th June, 1899, up to the 1st day of March, 1901.-Mr. Borden (Halifax). Copies of all correspondence, reports and certificates in regard to the application of Robert Gray, late lighthouse keeper at Entrance Island. British Columbia, for superannuation; also statement showing how long and what amounts ho had paid into the superannuation fund.-Hon. Mr. Prior. Copies of, all orders in council, regulations and other documents since the 1st day of January, 1897, presenting or showing what percentage or proportion of value of goods entitled to the advantage of the preferential tariff could be created in foreign countries, and what percentage or proportion of such value must be created in the United Kingdom; and also setting forth and showing what declarations, statements, affirmations or oaths must be made, declared or sworn to by exporters or other persons consigning such goods to Canadian importers, or by persons in Canada importing such goods from Great Britain and Ireland.-Mr. Clarke. Return showing the quantity of Servis railroad tie plates purchased by the government since June 30, A.D. 1887, the persons or companies from which the purchases were made, the quantities purchased, prices paid, dates of contracts and times of delivery.-Mr. Fowler, by Mr. Wilmot. 1 Copies of all rules and regulations and all correspondence in the Department of Marine and Fisheries relating to fishing berths and the shore fishery in West Halifax, more especially within the polling district of Prospect and Dover.-Mr. Roche (Halifax).


DUTY ON LUMBER.


On the motion : Mr. Bennett-That, in the opinion of this House, duties should be levied upon lumber imported into Canada corresponding with those now existing upon lumber entering the United States.


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The PRIME MINISTER (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier).

I am obliged to say to my hon. friend (Mr. Bennett) that the next time this is called, it must be proceeded with or it must be dropped.

Motion allowed to stand.

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P.E.I. COMMUNICATION.

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Mr. ALFRED A.@

LEFURGEY (East Prince, P.E.I.) moved for :

Copies of all reports, letters or other correspondence between the Department of Marine and Fisheries and the boards of trade of Sum-merside and Charlottetown, or with any other person or persons acting in regard to the subject-matter of the motion, during the years 1899-1900 and 1901, regarding the placing of the government winter steamer Stanley on the route between Summerside, P.E.I., and Cape Tormen-tine, N.B., for the conveyance of mails, passengers and freight.

He said : When this motion came up a few

days ago, I asked to have it stand over because the Minister of Marine (Hon. Sir Louis Davies) was not in his place. I am sorry he is not here to-day, as he is probably more familiar with the matter in hand than most of the other lion, gentlemen on the government benches. However, I wish to draw the attention of ministers and of members generally to the unsatisfactory, in fact the deplorable state of affairs which has existed in Prince Edward Island ever since confederation in regard to the transmission of mails, passengers and freight to and from the mainland, and more especially to a period lately passed, and to which reference has already been made in this House, and which is far from satisfactory to a country entering the twentieth century. I wish to point out further that it is a condition of affairs which is due not to the lack of opportunities or even of facilities to remedy it, but to causes which reflect most unsatisfactorily upon the heads of the departments who have been cognizant of the situation, and could have improved it had they been determined to do so. *The most ludicrous part of the miserable situation is that the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, who, during the time that he wandered in the wilderness of opposition, declaimed year after year about the treatment to which Prince Edward Island was subjected, is the head of the department at whose door chiefly lies the responsibility for the conditions Prince Edward Island has had to face this winter. I shall not deal with this subject at length, because it has been before the House, I suppose, every year since confederation. I merely wish to lay before the House some facts presented by the Board of Trade of Summerside. at whose request I deal with the subject this afternoon. I shall lay before you communications that have passed between the Minister of Fisheries and the Board of Trade of Summerside, and reports and recommendations from captains of win-

ter boats Minto and Stanley, and from the government engineer, Mr. Sehreiber, to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, which together with subsequent events will present a case of incompetence or wilful neglect. X should be recreant in my duty to my constituents did I not take this opportunity of placing this matter before the House.

Prince Edward Island, as you all know, entered confederation in 1873, under definite terms. One of the terms of union was as follows :

Efficient steam service for the conveyance of mails and passengers to be established and maintained between Prince Edward Island and the mainland of the Dominion, winter and summer, thus placing the island in continuous communication with the Intercolonial Railway and the railway system1 of the Dominion.

That has not been carried out. I do not wish to treat this as a matter in which the Dominion should be forced to fulfil the terms of its agreement. 1 simply read this section to you to show that the condition exists, so that it will be seen that the Dominion is in honour bound to carry it out. It is to the feeling of justice and fairness that I would appeal for a remedy for existing evils. We in Prince Edward Island are not complaining because millions are spent in opening up the trade of the country at various points, nor because facilities are given by rail and water for the development of the resources of the country. But what we want, gentlemen, is a fair treatment of the provinces down by the sea.

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Lawrence Geoffrey Power (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Order. I must ask the hon. member to address the Chair.

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Alfred Alexander Lefurgey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LEFURGEY.

I was saying, Mr. Speaker, that the island and the other provinces down by the sea should receive a fair treatment at the hands of the government. Prince Edward Island came into the confederation in 1873, and for the first few years we really got no consideration as regards communication. Later on a steamer by the name of Albert was put on, which did not meet the requirements of the situation at all. In 1876 we were given the steamer Northern Light, and for a number of years she plyed between the Island and the mainland, but like the Albert she gave very little satisfaction. In 1887 we got the Stanley. The government had experience of the Northern Light and put on a boat which really did good service up to 1899 ; but of course after having been battered up by the ice during all those years, she began to go down, and a second boat was indispensable if service was to be kept up. Then the Minto was put on in 1900, during the late parliament. One would have thought that the government would have taken pattern by the Stanley and put on a first-class boat with ail the modern improvements ; hut instead of having her built by the people who had experience of building the Stanley, for the sake of saving $30,000 or $40,000 they

had the Minto built in a second-class yard ; and a proof of this is that an answer given on the floor of the House to an inquiry in committee showed that the sum of $12,000 had to be voted for repairs in riveting after she had only been running one year. Of course she was a vessel of great power, hut what was the use of putting more power into a hull that was not capable of resisting the impact of the ice ? Moreover, after the Minto came out to the island before she could go on service and do the freight and passenger business required by that service, she had to he altered in many material respects. Surely the government in charge of her should have known this before accepting her and bringing her to the island. I do not know why this was done, unless it was that the present government did not wish to take pattern by the boat which had been supplied by the Conservative government. They have pursued a similar course in the matter of the fast Atlantic service ; but one notable case in which they did not do it was in respect of the national policy, for in that question they followed the example of the Conservative government.

At present, Mr. Speaker, we have two boats available, and that at the time when we should have our best service, is when the bungling of the opportunities at hand occurs and calls for some explanation,which I trust the Minister of Marine and Fisheries will give. A large number of business men. both in the province of Prince Edward Island and the county of Westmoreland contiguous, have for a number of years been advocating the Summerside and Cape Tormen-tine route as the natural and most favourable route for steam communication between tlie island and the mainland during the winter season. This project was advocated for some time, and finally we had a boat called the Petrel which came down from the lakes, a boat which the Minister of Marine and Fisheries should have known, which any reasonable man with a proper knowledge of the straits should have known, was not of sufficient power to break through two or three inches of ice, let alone keeping open navigation across the straits. And so we had that miserable failure which, I suppose, served the election purposes. Possibly up to the advent of the second steamer, the Minto, we cannot attach too much blame to either government for not experimenting with this route ; but after we got the steamer Minto it was only fair that the people of the western end of the island should have the benefit of her for freight and passenger traffic, and the conveyance of the mails. In 1900, promises were made that route would be tested, yet the Stanley was lying tied up at Georgetown wharf, when there never had been a more favourable time in the past twenty-five years for a steamer to test the expediency of this route. The Stanley remained tied up there the whole winter, and the govern-

ment gave the old excase that there was not enough water in Summerside harbour, and that there were not landing facilities at Oape Tormentine. But in May last, when the Dominion elections were in sight, promises came from the head of the department that these conditions would he remedied ; and, wonderful to relate, a dredge did come to Summerside to prepare the harbour for the Stanley. But stranger still the |500 or $600 necessary to repair the pier at Cape Tormentine to receive the Stanley was not forthcoming. I know that a circular was sent through the district a couple of days before the election, saying that $15,000 would be spent in Summerside each month during the winter season while the Stanley was on the Summerside and Cape Tormentine route. Yet they subsequently use this very neglect in repairing Cape Tormentine pier as an excuse for removing the boat. 1 only mention this because this whole subject of communication betwen the island and the mainland appears to have been treated merely from a political point of view ; it has not received that due consideration which these matters should have, and which the people down on the island deserve. Now, 1 am going to bring to the attention of the House some extracts of a report that the Minister of Marine and Fisheries received from his engineer, Mr. Shewen :

Mr. Shewen, in his report of September, 1900, referred to the work at Cape Tormentine as follows1 :-

That the Stanley required a vertical face 175 feet long on the outside of the return, or southern arm of the pier. And he used these words as to the route. The experiment proposed to he made with the Stanley between Summerside and Cape Tormentine is of the utmost consequence to the whole province of Prince Edward Island and to the other provinces with which the island does business, and at the narrowest part of the strait is found the greatest current and the current assists in loosening the ice. In the neighbourhood of Cape Tormentine the currents meet and part twice a day.

That was the report of the engineer, Mr. Shewen, to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries. The hon. gentleman was not altogether satisfied with that, and so he wrote to the captains of the winter boats, the Stanley and the Minto, and asked the following questions :

1. Is Cape Tormentine pier in a condition to receive the Stanley, or could she make it as a landing ?

This is the answer :

_ Cape Tormentine pier or breakwater is not in a fit condition to receive any steamer ; on account of it being built with a slope, a steamer could only bear on it with her bilge, which would be certain to injure her, and break her propeller. In summer, or before the ice makes, she could get round inside of the breakwater, but after the ice forms it would be impossible to put her inside, because it requires more space to turn in ice, and deeper water than there is inside of the breakwater.

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Alfred Alexander Lefurgey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LEFURGEY.

Generally, is this route feasible under present circumstances for winter ; if not, what would be required to make it a feasible route?

Answer. We cannot tell whether the route is feasible or not without a trial.

3rd Ques. Can you suggest any circumstances under which an experiment could safely be made to test the feasibility of that route?

Answer. The only thing, in our opinion, that can be done to test the route is this: after the steamer Northumberland stops running, place the Stanley at Summerside and have her all ready and let her remain there until the bord ice in the vicinity of Cape Tormentine breakwater is sufficiently strong to hold the steamer; then a landing can be made on the ice. This has been done at Souris and Georgetown on several occasions.

This reply is dated November 1, 1900, and is signed by the two masters of the winter boats, Capt. Finlayson and Oapt. Brown, on whom every reliance is placed, and on whom the minister is accustomed to rely and would shift responsibility in all cases. When the harbour of Summerside had been frozen over for about a month, or on December 22, the Stanley came into Summerside harbour, and continued to make daily trips between Summerside and Cape Tormentine, occupying from one hour and a half to two hours each trip, until on January 3 we find that news comes from Charlottetown that the Stanley is to be removed from this route and is in fact taken away to Georgetown, under the excuse that the facilities at Cape Tormentine pier are not requisite to land passengers, mails and freights, and on account of an epidemic of smallpox in Westmoreland, N.B. I want to show, from the data which I will put before the House, that we did not receive fair treatment in the matter of this trial, and I desire to point out that the hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries did not act up to the recommendation of the persons who were experienced in the matter of winter communication. When the board of trade found that the boat was-going to be removed from Summerside, they addressed the following correspondence to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries :

Summerside, December 26, 1900. Hon. Sir Louis Davies,

Ottawa.

Crossed with Stanley yesterday, Summerside to_ Cape Tormentine and return, making round trip under four hours, encountering ordinary winter conditions of ice. There can be no doubt about feasibility of daily communication, weather permitting. The only present difficulty is absence of bord ice is Tormentine pier, which requires piling andTrestle work, as recommended by Captain Brown in November, 1899. In consultation with Mr. McGlashing, your official at Tormentine, he says work can be done at a small cost in a few days. Will you kindly instruct him to have work done immediately.

R. C. MACLEOD, President of Board of Trade.

Ou December 26, the following message was also seut to the hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries :

In view of the success and rapidness of trip of Stanley here yesterday, we would suggest that mails be sent by her. The Minto being relieved of carrying mails and passengers, could easily handle all the freight. There were no mails here for four days till last night. The mails by the Stanley could be easily landed daily. Until pier is repaired or bord ice makes, mails and passengers can be landed at low tide by boats if necessary.

R. C. MACLEOD, President Board of Trade.

Tlie following telegram was received from the hon. minister on December 26 :

R. C. Macleod, Summerside.

Am inquiring with respect to epidemic smallpox in country surrounding Cape Tormentine. Pear will have to withdraw Stanley.

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L. H. DAVIES.


The board of trade replied to the minister as follows : Smallpox scare greatly exaggerated. Was on the ground yesterday. Do not withdraw Stanley. Sending delegation to-morro^ to fully investigate health conditions. Will report. R. C. MACLEOD, President Board of Trade. In the meantime the hon. minister replied that nothing would be done until he received the report of the delegates. The delegates reported that the infected district had been fully quarantined and every precaution taken by the health officers : New coaches have been substituted for those used on the New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island Railroad when epidemic was discovered, and no local passengers, freight or mails are permitted on the trains between Sackville and Cape Tormentine. The nearest case to Cape Tormentine is eight miles distant. There are several cases known, but of a very light type, and the epidemic is now thought to be under control. They also reported in regard to Cape Tormentine pier that Mr. McGlashing, in the employ of the government there, informed them that the repairs could be completed in a few days, if ordered, at a cost of from $200 to $300. In face of this, Mr. Speaker, the boat was taken away, and the hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries, in reply to these communications, telegraphed on January 3, 1901, as follows :- Letter received; regret impossible to make promises suggested, owing to absence of terminal facilities Tormentine combined with smallpox scare. Stanley is carrying little freight, few passengers and no mails. See no prospect her being much public service remainder of winter on this route while tremendous congestion of freight at Pictou demands her presence there to relieve it. I contend that a reply of this kind, in the face of the evidence that has been presented to this House, is a barefaced excuse. The want of terminal facilities was known to the hon. minister ; it was pointed out to him, and the necessary repairs were recommended by his engineer. These were also pointed out by Mr. McGlashing, the engineer at Cape Tormentine in charge of the work, who reported that they could be made at a cost of from $200 to $300 ; yet, the hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries goes back to the excuse of the want of proper terminal facilities, after promising, in the fall of 1900, to have these same repairs made. Then, he goes on to say that there was a scare of smallpox. He takes care to say that it was a scare, because the facts proved that it was nothing else. Whoever heard ot a smallpox scare, or even of a real case of smallpox stopping the trains ? Are you not having smallpox cases in Montreal and in Ottawa every season, and do you stop your trains because of this ? The excuse is too small to be put forward by any gentleman who holds the position of the hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries. As to there being no orders for passengers, freight or mails, I have read you the communications that passed between the board of trade and tlie minister, asking that the mails be transferred to the Stanley in view of the quick trips she was making. As regards passengers and freight, I may say that at this time in Summerside, there were between twenty and thirty cars of freight, composed of frozen fish, poultry and pork, manufactured lumber, &c., waiting. The board of trade could get no satisfaction from the authorities as to whether these goods could be shipped by the Stanley, and the Stanley had some 400 tons of coal on board during the time she was on this route. The result was that very little went in the way of freight or passengers, because the passengers could not depend on the movements of the Stanley, or whether or not she was likely to be taken away at any time. The congestion of freight, to which the hon. minister referred, did not exist at all. One of our merchants, a prominent member of the board of trade, wired to Pictou on hearing of this reported congestion of freight at Pictou, asking if he could get freight accommodation on the Minto, and the reply came back that two days would remove the congestion of freight at Pictou. Furthermore, I myself was at Pictou about this time, and I inquired as to the congestion of freight there, as I had also heard that the Stanley was going to be removed. I was informed that the Minto could relieve any congestion of freight in a very few days, providing the mails were transferred to the Stanley. These excuses did not amount to anything with the people of Prince Edward Island, who are so vitally interested in receiving their mails and freight. The result of the arrangement made last winter was that both boats were caught in the ice for ten days, and from 1,200 to 1,500 bags of mails were piled up at Cape Tormentine and Pictou, while the ice-boat service was not even called out to relieve the congestion until after some days. I am informed by



trustworthy people in the island and at Cape Tormentine, that there has not been a single day this winter when the Stanley could not have made return trips to Prince Edward Island from Summerside to Cape Tormentine, and we have the same reports at the present time. It was not my intention to rebuke the government, but in view of the bungling and mismanagement to which the people of the western end of the island (indeed all over the island) were obliged to submit during the last winter, some explanation is required from the government. I would be more pleased to think that it was the result of neglect than that the Minister of Marine (Hon. Sir Louis Davies) had been influenced by any political pull coming from West Queen's. I do not want to make any political capital out of this matter because the people of the island and of the whole Dominion, irrespective of political parties, are deeply concerned. We have the facilities at hand, and what we complain is that they are not utilized in the best interest of the people. As you know, Mr. Speaker, the people of Prince Edward Island are an intelligent people, and since they entered confederation in 1873 they have been a long-suffering and patient people as regards this matter, but patience must have its limit. There may be some hon. gentlemen here who do not know that Prince Edward Island is a most fertile province, and that we have resources there in almost every line of agriculture. During the last few years the dairying industry has made marked progress, but that progress must necessarily be retarded unless we can send our products to the markets at all times of the year. I wish to emphasize that the route which I advocate is better than any other route which has been experimented upon, or which is known, and it will receive the approval of seven-eighths of the people of the island, lor the following reasons : Three-fourths of the freight and passengers and mails must pass through Sackville before coming to the island, and Sackville is a great many miles removed from Pictou, so that a great'deal of time would be saved. As to the steamers themselves they would have from 24 to 80 miles less ice breaking, because the route between Summerside and Cape Tormentine is only 15 miles whereas between Georgetown and Pictou it is about 50 miles. There would be consequently less wear and tear on the_ steamers by the shorter route. It is 132 miles shorter from Charlottetown to Sackville than via Georgetown, it is 182 miles shorter from Summerside and the west, than by going around via Georgetown, and it is 40 miles nearer to Sackville going to Georgetown via Summerside and the Cape than it is to go around via Pictou and Georgetown. The route, therefore. has many advantages in the saving of distances. Mails and passengers arriving by the Intercolonial Railway express from Montreal get to Sackville at 12.23 p.m., and Mr. LEFURGEY. by the Canadian Pacific Railway from Halifax at 11.50 a.m., so that by proper train connection they could reach Charlottetown at 7 p.m., or 24' hours sooner than by the route now used. Take the example of two men leaving Charlottetown for the main line of the Intercolonial Railway in the morning at the same hour. The man going by Summerside and Cape Tormentine would be at Sackville when the man from Charlottetown and Georgetown would arrive at Pictou. In other words, he would be 24 hours ahead on a trip to Montreal or any point west. Another advantage is that the winter boat from Summerside to Cape Tormentine is never out of sight of land, and if the steamers carried ice-boats the passengers on that dangerous trip could be landed in a few hours without any delay. As the engineer pointed out to the Minister of Marine (Hon. Sir Louis Davies), the tide meets there twice daily and consequently the ice is kept loosened up. The winds also favour this route, because at Charlottetown and Georgetown we have the north and north-east winds, which completely block up the straits at times, while at Cape Tormentine this does not occur, or if we had a boat at either end it would more nearly carry out the terms of confederation, because if one boat was tied up on the Georgetown-Pictou route with north-east winds we would have the other route absolutely free of ice, or, on the other hand, if westerly winds blocked the western route the eastern would be open. Another point in favour of this route is that if there was any congestion of freight while there was open water we could have a boat ply from Summerside to Cape Tormentine twice daily. There is no business man in the House, nor any man of common sense, who, in view of the conditions that exist will deny in the face of these facts that the people of Prince Edward Island have not been treated fairly in this matter. We would like the assurance of the hon. the Minister of Marine-who, I regret, is not here-and the hon. the Minister of Public Works, that this matter will be remedied in the near future, and that this pier at Cape Tormentine will be put in repair, as was promised time and time again, and not be kept for use as a political machine during election time. Furthermore, we would ask that the steamer Stanley be put on a Summerside and Cape Tormentine route at the earliest possible moment. I have letters from reliable persons every day telling me that there has been open water on that route almost every day this year, and that the Stanley could have made round trips between those points without interruption the entire season. I thank the House for its kind attention, and would again ask the consideration of the hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries and the government and the members of this House to the topic I have brought before them. Mr. EDWARD HACIvETT (West Prince, P.E.I.) Before this motion is carried, Mr! Speaker, 1 desire to say but few words, as my hon. friend from East Prince has dwelt so ably and exhaustively on the subject that he has left me very little to say. There is one thing we regret in connection with this matter, and that is that we have not the pleasure of seeing the Minister of Marine and Fisheries (Hon. Sir Louis Davies) in his seat. This motion was allowed to stand on the Order paper a week ago because of his absence, and now we find that he is again away from the House, and that we have to press this motion on the attention of this House in the absence of the minister in charge of the department. We are thus compelled to address ourselves to hon. gentlemen who are unfamiliar with the details, and it is very unsatisfactory to us to be placed in this position, representing as my hon. friend and myself do the majority of the people of the island and the intelligence and views and desires of that majority. We are the more disappointed, because we were led to believe by the hon. minister, who is not here to attend to the affairs of his province that he was going to revolutionize affairs once he obtained a seat on the treasury benches. Why is the hon. gentleman absent to-day '! The reason is not far to seek. There is a byelection on in Prince Edward Island, and he is more anxious to bring back to this House a supporter of the government than to remain here and attend to the business and wants of the people. The other day, on his return from a trip to the island, the hon. gentleman complained that he had been imprisoned in that province, and we had the hon. the Postmaster General, when asked for an explanation of the delay of ten days in the mail service between Prince Edward Island and the mainland, telling us that he would explain the delay as soon as his colleague returned. We know why the Minister of Marine went to the island at that time and sympathized with him. He went down to the bed side of a sick father, and' we know that with his characteristics of filial love and affection, he would not leave that bed side as long as his father remained ill, and we would have to wait until his return for the information we required. When the hon. gentleman came back he told us how he had been imprisoned owing to the ice blockade, and yet we find him going down and risking imprisonment again in his native province, but this time his object is to bring back a supporter to himself. He is not here to attend to his duties and the affairs of his province, but is down at the island trying to elect the candidate who was defeated on the 7th of November last, and bring him back to vote for this government. This question we are discussing is one of great importance to the people of Prince Edward Island. One of the principal inducements at the time of confederation to Prince Edward Island to become a part of the Dominion was the promise held out to the people that the Dominion would establish uninterrupted winter communication between the island and the mainland. We were told by both parties that the Dominion, having means at its disposal, would, if the island entered the union, provide the continuous steam communication in winter and summer, so necessary to the welfare of that province, between the island and the mainland. In bringing this question to the notice of the House, we therefore make no apology, because it is not one which affects our province alone. We have in that province a population of about 120.000, intelligent, fairly prosperous, and mostly composed of farmers and fishermen. We have no manufacturing industries of any importance, and consequently have to buy from the other provinces the manufacturing goods we require, and to-day, notwithstanding the ice blockade, we find commercial travellers from Toronto, Montreal, Quebec, Halifax, St. John and other cities of Canada visiting our province and selling their goods to our people. This question therefore is not one which affects the island alone, but the whole Dominion, and consequently we require to make no apology when bringing it to the notice of the House. My hon. friend (Mr. Lefurgey) has dwelt so fully upon what has been done that little remains to be said. We know that the government has been approached by the local government of our province and shown that a large amount is due us by the Dominion because of the non-fulfilment of this article of confederation. The right hon. gentleman (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) replied that we have now one ice boat-I think that was in .1898-and that next year he would provide another one, and thus fulfil the terms of union. He sent away the delegation, and we have received no compensation for the non-fulfilment of those terms although they have been so long left unfulfilled. Another steamer was placed on the route, but to provide the continuous communication, guaranteed us by the terms of confederation, the two boats should not be kept on the same route between the same two points. It has been shown that the route between Cape Tormentine and Sum-merside harbour is the natural one. Between Cape Tormentine and Cape Traverse is really the natural route, as the distance across is only eight or nine miles, but as there are not proper facilities at Cape Traverse, communication cannot be kept up between those points. But Summerside harbour, lying some fifteen miles east, is easily accessible. That crossing was experimented upon by the steamer Stanley, which was sent there on the 22nd December, after ice had formed in the harbour, and she had no difficulty getting to the wharf and made the round trip in three hours, taking from Summerside a number of people and bringing back a number of passengers from the other side, thus clearly estab-


March 11, 1901