Mr. TAYLOR.

Will the hon. gentleman leave these reports on the Table ?

I will be glad to do so. I may say that the best evidence that there was no preparation for this investigation is the fact that in one place, at all events, no irregularities were found. If our object had been to discover irregularities before we made our investigation, we would not have chosen that plan, but we would have chosen places where we had found irregularities. We just took the places at random, and made the investigation with the results that have been detailed. I have here four of these, and one where there was nothing wrong

found. I will bring the reports down before the next meeting of the House.

Mr. TAYLOR.

I presume these commissioners were paid out of this appropriation the same as in Quebec ?

Yes.

Mr. TAYLOR.

I stated a few minutes ago that the hon. gentleman had a staff composed of one clerk from each constituency in the Dominion, and the hon. gentleman stated a few moments ago that there was a supplementary list to be added. I have added up the numbers, and I find there are 205. names on this pay-list. I find also that he has able bodied men and women working at $1.25 per day, judging from this pay-list. I want the hon. gentleman to tell me how much it cost in 1891 and in 1901 to take the census in the city of Ottawa, where you have to pay for clerical work $1.25 a day ?

I may say that as far as the $1.25 a day is concerned, there are a few clerks who are being paid $1.25 a day. This is because there were a few clerks who were not doing their duty properly and they were cut down from $1.50 to $1.25 a day as a warning and told if they did not do better they would be dismissed altogether.

Mr. TAYLOR.

There is quite a number of them.

I cannot tell the hon. gentleman how many there are. The expense in the city of Ottawa in 1891 was $1,564.37, and in 1901, $4,573.96. [DOT]

Mr. TAYLOR.

Three times the amount that it cost in 1891. I have just run up this monthly pay-list, and to the end of March,

I find that it takes $10,500 to pay the persons whose names appear here. Then, there is a supplementary list, and there is the commissioner and a large number of the members of the staff who are not on this pay-list at all. There is Mr. Blue, the commissioner, whose name does not appear and that will increase the amount very materially. It is costing $10,500 a month, and from the best information we have it will take two years to complete the work of tabulating the statistics from the 1st of March. To pay this staff it will cost $250,000, to say nothing of the commissioner and the other members of the staff. My hon. friend does not expect to get through in less than two years from March last. The expenditure up to that time is $948,000 to say nothing of the commissioner, or rent, or tlie other members of the staff. This is the ordinary list of pay clerks who are receiving $1.25, $1.60, $1.75, and up to $2 a day. There is one man drawing $100 a month on the list, and he is the only one that I have noticed receiving that amount. I am prepared to say that before the work is

completed $1,250,000 will be nearer the amount expended than the sum stated by the minister.

Hr. INGRAM.

What is the latest bulletin that has been issued ?

Bulletin No. 7. giving the population by origins and nationalities.

Mr. INGRAM.

I would like to draw the hon. gentleman's attention to the fact that he has not been very extravagant in furnishing us with copies of the bulletins. I would like to know why the distribution office of the House is not supplied with a reasonable number so that copies can be obtained by members.

I will be glad to send some copies to members of the House.

I think we have advanced a little and that we might now adjourn.

I do not think we have advanced the business very much, but this happens to be as convenient a time as any other to adjourn.

Mr. CLARE.

I would like to ask the hon. minister whether he would object to bringing down a detailed statement of a few of the enumerators' accounts ? I would like the hon. gentleman to bring down a statement showing the amounts paid to the enumerators in South Waterloo particularly. Some resolutions reported.

There is no such correspondence.