May 14, 1903

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

It might be so. The committee would have a free hand.

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Motion agreed to.


REVISION OF THE TARIFF.

LIB

Joseph Israël Tarte

Liberal

Hon. J. I. TARTE (Montreal, St. Mary's).

Mr. Speaker, before the Orders of the Day are called, I would like to ask the hon. Minister of Finance (Hon. Mr. Fielding) and the hon. Minister of Customs (Hon. Mr. Paterson) if they would find it convenient to lay on the Table of the House all communications or memoranda containing suggestions on the revision of the tariff ? Of course, I mean those which are not of a confidential nature. It would be, I think, very convenient to have them. It would help greatly in the debate that we are going to resume shortly on the fiscal policy.

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE (Hon. W. S. Fielding).

I do not- know that we could have any objection to it.

I can only say that if the hon. gentleman (Hon. Mr. Tnrte) had desired it, I wish he could have asked for it at an earlier stage in the session. The correspondence will be somewhat voluminous. There is cer-Hon. Mr. FIELDING.

tainly no reason why we should object to the production of any part that is not marked ' confidential,' but I would expect that the motion which my hon. friend might make would call for so much that it would take some time and considerable work in the preparation of the return. However, from a governmental point of view, there is no reason why we should not bring it down if the House desires it.

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Joseph Israël Tarte

Liberal

Hon. Mr. TARTE.

With the indulgence of the House I would say that if I am expected to make a motion it might take a little more time than it would if my hon. friends would consent to bring down as much of the correspondence as it is possible for them to do. I suppose that these documents are in shape and that it would not be much trouble to lay them on the Table of the House.

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

I would be glad at a later stage to make an announcement on the subject. The point is quite new. I did not anticipate bringing the papers down, not, however, on account of any objection on our part. I did not suppose they would be asked for or desired.

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John William Bell

Mr. BELL.

They are not confidential.

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

Some of them may be.

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LIB

SETTLEMENT OF RAILWAY LABOUR DISPUTES.


The POSTMASTER GENERAL (Hon. Sir William Mulock) moved third reading of Bill (No. 17) to aid in the settlement of railway labour disputes.


CON

Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

I thought the hon. gentleman would have the amendments printed before he moved the third reading of the Bill.

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The POSTMASTER GENERAL.

I have no objection. Let it stand.

Debate adjourned.

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CONSTRUCTION OF DRY DOCKS-GOVERNMENT AID.


House went into committee on the following proposed resolution : That it is expedient to repeal section 1 of chapter 9 pf the statutes of 1899, and enact, in lieu thereof, the following section :- If any company or body corporate, approved by the Governor in Council, as having the ability to perform the work, enters into an agreement with His Majesty to construct a dry dock, with all proper and necessary equipment, machinery and plant, for the reception and repairing of vessels, at a place, and according to plans and specifications approved by the Governor in Council, on a report by the Minister of Public Works, as sufficient for the requirements of the public at such place ; the work to be completed within a time to be limited by such agreement. Then, provided the company performs the work according to such agreement. and to the satisfaction of the Minister of Public Works, under the supervision of whose department the work shall be done, the Governor in Council may authorize the payment out of any unappropriated moneys forming part of the Consolidated Revenue Fund, of a subsidy not exceeding three per cent per annum on the cost of the work during twenty years from the time of its completion and acceptance by the said minister ; provided that such subsidy shall not exceed thirty thousand dollars per annum ; and that the cost on which it shall be calculated shall not be greater than the value of the work as estimated by the said minister. Provided also, that the subsidy shall not be payable for any portion of the said twenty years during which the dock is not in complete repair and working order.-The Minister of Finance.


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The MINISTER OF FINANCE (Hon. W. S. Fielding).

This resolution proposes to amend an Act which has been on the statute-book for several years. Some years ago the government constructed some docks as government works, but apart from that an Act was placed on the statute-book making provision for grants by way of aid to incorporated companies which might construct docks of the proper character subject to the approval of the government. The original arrangement was that that aid might take the shape of a subsidy equal to 2 per cent on the cost of the dock, for a period of twenty years, not exceeding, however, in any case, $10,000 per annum, which would be 2 per cent upon $500,000. That was the state of the law for some time. In the year 1899, an amendment was made whereby we still retained the 2 per cent, but we enlarged the amount upon which the payment might be made in order that docks of a larger capacity might be constructed. The Act as it now stands makes provision for payments of 2 per cent upon the cost of the dock, not exceeding, however, $20,000 per annum. The change which we now propose is to make the rate which we may pay by way of subsidy, 3 per cent instead of 2 per cent, and with a corresponding change in the total amount-instead of 2 per cent, or $20,000 we may pay in the case stated, 3 per cent, or $30,000 per annum. The change is entirely with respect to the rate per cent. It has been found that some difficulty has been experienced in floating companies to build these docks upon the present basis, and it is represented to us that if this increase be made, docks would be constructed in some places where otherwise they might not be. The only dock constructed under the old Act was the one at Halifax which was constructed by the joint aid of the imperial, the Dominion and the city governments. The city of Halifax paid a certain sum per annum, the Dominion government a certain sum per annum, and the imperial government gave a subsidy in consideration of which the ships of His Majesty's navy were received into the dock. There is a dock proposed and some progress has been made on it at Collingwood, Ontario, which no doubt would come in under the operation of this Act. They have been negotiating, and a contract was made on the basis of the present Act, but I think not much progress has been made, and I suppose the Collingwood Company would expect to avail themselves of the advantages of this Act. Another dock which has been brought to our notice is at the port of St. John, N.B., where it is represented that with this increased aid, the company will be able to establish a dock of a large character adapted to the increasing trade of the port. The policy of all governments in times past having been to aid works of this character, the only question is one of proportion, and inasmuch as 2 per cent has not been found a sufficient sum to bring about the construction of any docks in recent years, it is proposed to enlarge the aid by granting 3 per cent; with the maximum of $30,000 per annum for a period of twenty years.

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Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

Have any companies, except that at Collingwood, applied for the aid provided for by this resolution ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

I think I am correct in saying that no application has been made by any other company. Occasionally mention has been made of projects in other quarters, but I think I am right in saying that no application has been made by any company except the company at St. John and the company at Collingwood.

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LIB

Joseph Israël Tarte

Liberal

Hon. Mr. TARTE.

Of course the plans will be submitted in the usual way for approval by the government.

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May 14, 1903