September 30, 1903

LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. HUGHES (King's, P.E.I.).

No, they have been employed with contractors in railway work. They have no interest at all in Mr. Kitchen's contract, not the slightest, no more than my hon. friend.

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CON

Alfred Alexander Lefurgey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LEFURGEY.

The information came to me in several communications, and I have given it to you as I got it. I only call the attention of the minister to it in order that it may be looked into. I would like to know how this amount of $9,750 which the provincial government is to pay has been arrived at ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

I am afraid I can hardly answer that question. It was originally fixed at a larger sum, in the earlier negotiations. The estimate for the bridge was less than was thought in the first negotiations, and this sum was fixed by Act of parliament in the year 1901 confirming the arrangement made with the government of Prince Edward Island,

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CON

Edward Cochrane

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHRANE.

What are we to understand by a narrow gauge road ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The railway on the island is not the standard gauge, but three feet six.

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CON

Edward Cochrane

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHRANE.

What is the lay of this country ? I always understood that it was level.

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

It is not level, but there are no very high mountains. It is a rolling country.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HAGKETT.

I am satisfied with the plan of the hon. minister with regard to the substructure of the bridge. But how will the superstructure be carried on ? Are we to have some of the old bridges on the Intercolonial taken across and placed as a superstructure on that work ? The people of the island, according to the statement of the hon. gentleman, are paying $9,750 per year for this accommodation.

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

Mr. Haney's contract is for the substructure, $1,218,000. The superstructure represents $275,000. We are not to have any played-out bridges, but some good, strong bridges, suitable for the island, are to be taken from the Intercolonial.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HACEETT.

From what part of the Intercolonial are those bridges coming ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

From the Miramiehi river.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HACKETT.

The south-west or northwest branches ? .

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

The chief engineer thinks south-west, but not very positive.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HACKETT.

What is their age ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

They were built in 1872.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HACKETT.

Did not the hon. min-' ister a few days ago give a bridge of the same age to be used as a traffic bridge between Quebec and the province of New Brunswick, without charging anything at all for it ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

We are not charging this to the island.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HACKETT.

Yes, you are compelling the province to pay $9,750 per year for this superstructure, where there shall be a carriage way alongside, and I think that it is strange that a present should be made to the rich province of Quebec and the province of New Brunswick, while you insist upon Prince Edward Island paying the last farthing.

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

I think, in view of those large figures, that my hon. friend will hardly get a great deal of sympathy when he complains that the island is badly treated. Over the Restigouche there was a bridge for which we had no use. If we could have used it on any other part of the government system, we would have done so, but there was no place for which it was adapted, so that it was practically worthless. We offer it to the provinces of New Brunswick and Quebec as our contribution for an iron bridge between the two provinces, but the municipalities or the provinces will have to provide considerable expenditure in the making of that bridge. We occasionally grant . sums for interprovincial bridges, and we deal with new Brunswick and Quebec as we deal with other provinces between which there are interprovincial bridges.

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L-C

Edward Hackett

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HACKETT.

I am not objecting at all to what is being done at Restigouche, but I object that, while the provinces of New Brunswick and Quebec are dealt with in one way, Prince Edward Island is dealt with differently. What doles the acting minister intend doing in connection with the building of a railway station at Charlottetown ? That has been in discussion for many years, and the present railway station is not at all fitted for its purpose. Does the hon. minister intend now to build a proper railway station in Charlottetown ?

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September 30, 1903