Samuel Hughes
Liberal-Conservative
Mr. SAMUEL HUGHES.
In so far as it is not inconsistent with your law.
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ttoii. Sir FREDERICK W lister of Militia and Defence) moved for Miin-to intl-oduce Bill (No. 5) respecting the Uoii of Canada. He said : I presume the ejJ:86 will expect me to make a few short Sanations as to the provisions of this eXiat' me in the first place, that the laTvtln§ militia law is practically the same Slne Which has been on the statute-book the ^confederation, and indeed it was on that n ^Ute ^°°k °t old Canada long before exist- at-G- Times have changed since the St'ow 8 law was enacted ; Canada has it h'inifUlt the militia force has grown, and thiliti 1)6611 hound impossible to carry on our existi system advantageously under the eht a11? hiw. Instead of amending the pres-entiffti ' 1 thought it better to bring in an repealJ 116vv Till], which provides for< the eopj. °,f tlie existing law, but which, of Provisi' lnelu(Ies and retains many of its h'odn This measure, which I now in- I)owei.e' .defl.'s with the maintenance of civil of the Wltliin the country and the defences g6q country against invasion, and in con-h,°l'tanp? ^ 113 a measure of very great im-" a e- I hope, and I am led to think
Plant h'„B mi'itia authorities of my depart-hi£r 1,0t lost sight of this fact in framthatthe *11g til Pfhinen Bi|l. 1 may say that we have ex-,Ws of' "''t °uly the imperial laws and the aWs of er colonies of the empire, but the i.'Kle-'ivoii ,1' countries as well, and we have b&st tho.« . to incorporate in this Bill the It wn, ,18 jn them all. n°W i„w® tound that in the Bill which 1 Jhade in ,, ?c.e there have been changes *sting law6.1'^11 0|- the provisions of the ex-ttitions tn I timre have been important admission* i;,' nnd there have been important omissions1 Amo"s the more import'd6 first ni?,"? ^f'°m the present law is, in f 6 first nio om the tnletlce tn +iC6' tIle disappearance of any re-.re i'n„* tne naval militia. Tills is due to at a Bill will he introduced by ^Tine) !£' ot Marine (Hon. Mr. Prgfon this , 1 ,wi" meet all the requirements ,'t the s„„ 1 may say that this is done Voioniai i w 0n nnd under the advice of the Admiralty efence Committee and of the &1'esentUnf,t important omission from the ' 18 that restriction which prevents the appointment of a Canadian officer as commanding officer of our militia. The existing Militia Act provides that no one but an imperial officer, and no one below the rank of colonel in the British army, shall be appointed general officer commanding the militia of Canada. The new Bill omits this restriction and leaves it open to a Canadian or to any qualified person within the British empire to be appointed by the government as commanding officer of the Canadian militia. The next important omission-'military men will consider it important, although in a sense it is perhaps a matter of minor importance-the next omission from the Bill is the provision in the present law by which an officer of the British army of the same rank as a Canadian officer, but of junior date of appointment, takes precedence of the Canadian officer in the militia of Canada. This provision is not included in the present Bill, so that in future imperial officers who come here to serve in Canada will rank with officers of the Canadian militia according to the date of their appointment. The next important provision which is not included in the present Bill, but which exists in the law as it now stands, is with reference to the powers of the imperial officer commanding the imperial troops at Halifax. Under the law as it now stands, in case of war, the imperial officer commanding the imperial troops at Halifax, no matter how junior he might be, would immediately take command of the whole militia of Canada over the head of the general officer commanding the militia of this country. That provision has been eliminated from the present Bill, and no allusion whatever is made to the general officer commanding at Halifax. If he is a man of senior rank, he would in time of war, by virtue of his seniority, take his position as head of the forces in this country. One other omission is made. There is no reference in the Bill I am now proposing to the King's regulations. Under the law as it now exists the King's regulations are made a part of the law of Canada. This has been found to be troublesome and cumbrous, and to add to the difficulties of the administration of the militia. Therefore, we shall rely in future upon the regulations made in Canada for the administration of the militia of Canada, except that the Army Act will apply. It was at first thought that we might re-enact the Army Act in this country ; but it is a very long document and is being changed from time to time ; and, after taking the best advice I could get in this country, it was thought wiser to adopt the British Army Act rather than to attempted to re-enact a similar Act here at present.
Mr. SAMUEL HUGHES.
In so far as it is not inconsistent with your law.
Sir FREDERICK W. BORDEN.
Quite so. I Now, I will mention some alterations which
Mr. INGHAM.
Does the minister the cadet corps connected with high schools-
Sir FREDERICK W. BORDEN.
Yes, a"*1 with any school.
Mr. CLARKE.
Sir FREDERICK W. BORDEN.
Mr. SAM. HUGHES (North Victoria).
power unless the riot takes the form of an insurrection. Why should the militiamen be called upon to do police duty, standing around docks and warehouse doors, to be spat upon, as we have seen them spat upon again and again ? They have to stand there absolutely passive. Special constables would have the right to arrest those who assaulted them. But, as militiamen we dare not arrest a rioter unless ordered to do so. I would like the minister to take this point into his serious consideration, and, if he is going to insist on the law7 remaining as it is, I would like to have another point fairly considered, ihe electors of the county that I have the honour to represent contribute to the permanent force as well as do those of the cities and towns ; but we do not have any riots in our municipal districts, for these disturbances ^ are confined to the cities. I can tell the Minister of Militia, as well as the First Minister, that the people of this country object to paying for a police force to be sent about to these various large centres to quell disturbances, unless those disturbances amount to an absolute insurrection.
Sir WILFRID LAURIER.
They don't.
Mr. SAM. HUGHES.
Under the law they have to, though.
Sir WILFRID LAURIER.
No.
Mr. SAM. HUGHES.
I am only taking the word of the Minister of Militia for it. lie says the Bill provides that the militia shall not be called out so long as the permanent force is sufficient to put down the disturbance. The permanent force, as I understand it, are to be called out first, and, if they are not sufficient to quell the riot, the ordinary militia will be called out. I object to contributing a dollar to such a service ; I object
Sir FREDERICK W. BORDEN.
The municipalities will still pay the expense. The provision is precisely the same, as to the volunteer force, as it was before.
Mr. SAM. HUGHES.
Where will the money go ?
Sir FREDERICK W. BORDEN.
The
government will pay the militiamen and charge it to the municipalities.
Mr. SAM. HUGHES.
There is no provision for that. You have no authority, I believe, to collect the money.