July 11, 1904

LIB
LIB
LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. SAM. HUGHES.

Would 'permanent corps ' not be the correct words to use here ? A man in the stores department gets $1.25 a day, but he wears his uniform and is sworn in. Is he not a member of the permanent force ?

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LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

He is not in barracks.

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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. SAM. HUGHES.

Where does the minister get authority to pay a man in the stores department $1.25 a day ?

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LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

He gets it from a special vote for pay and allowances.

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LIB
LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

I think that would be a matter of regulation.

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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. SAM. HUGHES.

You cannot override an Act of parliament by a regulation. If the law says you shall not pay him more than 75 cents a day there may be difficulty in paying the man $1.25. I am only pointing it out for the safety of the men.

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LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

I think the interpretation was that the expression * ordinary pay ' overcame that difficulty.

Topic:   THE MILITIA ACT.
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CON

James Gilmour

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GIDMOUR.

Is it the intention to increase also the pay of the officers, warrant officers, and non-commissioned officers as well as of the privates ?

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LIB
LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

My hon. friend (Mr. Gilmour) will see that the pay of non-commissioned officers is based upon that of the privates ; it is so much more than that of the privates.

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CON
LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

A sergeant-major gets $1.50, a warrant officer gets $1.25 and $1, but there will be an increase.

On section 65-pay of active militia.

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LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

I have an amendment to be substituted for section 65b. It was arranged in the Committee of the Whole some time ago. It is as follows :

For privates at the rate of 50 cents a day, which rate may be increased as may be prescribed, but not to exceed a maximum of $1 a day.

I have also an addition to be inserted as section 65c which is as follows :

An allowance of $1 per diem or such other rate as is prescribed shall be paid to each officer and man for every horse necessarily used by him on active service, during the period of active drill, or when otherwise on duty as aforesaid.

We omitted in the Bill to make any provision to pay for horses. This simply is restoring the clause which is in the present law.

Topic:   THE MILITIA ACT.
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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal

Mr. SAM. HUGHES.

This is not intended as a slap at the new war lord for hiring his horse ?

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LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

You must riot be so vindictive.

Section as amended agreed to.

Progress reported.

On motion of Sir Frederick Borden, House adjourned at 10.40 p.m.

Tuesday, July 12, 1904.

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July 11, 1904