August 1, 1904

LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

That is right.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

It would meet uiy sentimental objection. Then it would read:

Whenever the Governor in Council places the militia of Canada, or any part thereof, on active service, the parliament of Canada shall then, &c.

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LIB

Peter Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

I shall read the section as it was and as it is.

69. The Governor in Council may place the militia, or any part thereof, on active service anywhere in Canada and also beyond Canada, for the defence thereof, at any time when it appears advisable so to do by reason of emergency.

Then the amendment as first proposed was as follows :

Whenever the Governor in Council places the militia, or any part thereof, on. active service anywhere in Canada or beyond Canada for the defence thereof, parliament, if parliament be then separated by such adjournment,-

and so on. Now the proposition is that the words

Anywhere in Canada or beyond Canada for the defence thereof,

be struck out.

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LIB

William Mulock (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Sir WILLIAM MULOCK.

I would suggest that you put in the word 'so,'-'whenever so called out.'

iMr. FITZPATRICK. I took about a day to draw that clause and I would like to have as little emendation as possible.

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LIB

William Mulock (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Sir WILLIAM MULOCK (reading) :

Whenever the Governor in Council so place* the militia, or any part thereof.

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CON
LIB

William Mulock (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Sir WILLIAM MULOCK.

It is intended to meet the preceding state of affairs.

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L-C
LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

Let us get through with one suggestion at a time ; they are coming in so fast now, that we will not have time to deal with them.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I do not think the

word ' so ' is necessary.

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LIB

William Mulock (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Sir WILLIAM MULOCK.

Very well, probably it does not.

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L-C

Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. SAM. HUGHES.

Is the minister going to accept the amendment to have the word ' thereof ' changed to 'empire.'

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LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

Do not start another row.

Bill as amended reported.

Amendments read the first and second times, and agreed to.

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RAILWAY SUBSIDIES.


Bill (No. 157) respecting the payment of certain railway subsidies.-Mr. Emmerson- was read the second time and House went into committee thereon. On section 1.


LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I would like to amend section 1 by a slight verbal change. I would move to add the words ' difference between the ' before the word ' amount ' on the 25th line and to strike out words ' over and above ' on the same line.

On section 2-' cost ' defined-

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

This would put it in the power of the minister on the chief engineer's recommendation to increase the subsidy considerably.

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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

This gives power to fix the subsidy beforehand on data furnished by the chief engineer. This change is favoured by the Auditor General and by Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

the department, as it will avoid a great many difficulties, and it will be very much easier to reach a conclusion beforehand. In all cases this course need not necessarily be followed. It will only ,be when a company applies.

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CON
LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Some may not. I can well understand a company in certain circumstances not desiring to be limited to a certain amount, hoping to get the full $0,400. The amount in this instance is dependent upon the chief engineer's report, which would naturally be on the safe side.

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August 1, 1904