May 31, 1905

CON
LIB

Archibald Campbell

Liberal

Mr. CAMPBELL.

Nearly every one of them. In West York, East York, North York and in Kent these officials were dismissed and no investigation held.

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CON

Francis Ramsey Lalor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LALOR.

Will you say they were dismissed without cause ? Will you say as the representative of Centre York that the license inspectors did their duty ?

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LIB

Archibald Campbell

Liberal

Mr. CAMPBELL.

Yes, I will. In East and West York the license inspectors were most efficient men and men who had not taken any part in politics since their appointment several years ago. Mr. Russel in East York is one of the most highly respected men in the county ; lie is a man who had studiously avoided taking part in politics and yet his head has been cut off without investigation or inquiry. In West York it is the same. For the few months Mr. Whitney has been in power he has dismissed hundreds of officials all over the province. The fishery overseers have gone also and all without an investigation. Mr. Whitney is fresh at the business yet ; he is making good headway so far, and if he continues I venture to say there will be very few Liberal officials in Ontario in a short while. Are we squealing or whining about it V For the last ten years these gentlemen opposite have been whining and squealing because officials have been dismissed for offensive partisanship, but it is time they let up on that and turned their attention to their friends in Toronto who are doing ten times worse. Possibly there may be one official out of hundreds who has been dismissed, but I can tell you that the course pursued by this government in this respect reflects the highest credit on them. To these gentlemen opposite I say : go and talk to Mr. Whitney as you are talking here and it may do some good.

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CON

John Barr

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARR.

It is all very well for the hon. gentleman to talk generally, but I challenge him to put his finger on a single license inspector who has been dismised without cause.

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LIB

Archibald Campbell

Liberal

Mr. CAMPBELL.

East and W7est York and Kent.

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CON

John Barr

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARR.

In East and WTest York they were bitter partisans and if they had not been dismissed it would have been a disgrace to the government. In the first place they did nothing to carry out the law. We all know that the license commissioners are only appointed from year to year.

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LIB

Archibald Campbell

Liberal

Mr. CAMPBELL.

I refer to license inspectors.

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CON

John Barr

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARR.

Yes, they allowed the gambling hells to operate and they let the hotels

keep open at all hours In that part of the country.

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LIB
CON

John Barr

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARR.

I speak from what I know, and I say that they did nothing but draw their salaries. In Dufferin we have the same inspector, but the commissioners were changed and I can assure you that the change was a great improvement. The inspectors that have not been removed for cause now know that they have to do their duty, and that if they do not they will be dismissed. Every day there are cases brought up in this House where good officials have been dismissed for no reason whatever. I have myself pointed out that in my own county a postmaster after seven years service was dismissed without any cause except that ' he was a Conservative and exercised his franchise.

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LIB

Thomas Martin

Liberal

Mr. T. MARTIN.

I am astonished to hear the member for Dufferin (Mr. Barr) make such statements in this House; I challenge him to give the name of one man in the large county of Wellington who has been dismissed by this government on account of polities. The hon. gentleman knows very well that we had a great many civil servants in Wellington who were strong partisans. It is astonishing to me that a man of as high standing as the hon. member for Dufferin would make such statements. In the province of Ontario there has scarcely been a man removed from the position he occupied in 1896 for such cause as the hon. gentleman has mentioned. I challenge him to name one man who has been removed for that cause in the large and populous county of Wellington, which contains the city of Guelph ; but I can name several Conservatives who have been appointed or reappointed to good positions in that county.

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CON

Francis Ramsey Lalor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LALOR.

Give us the names of the ones reinstated.

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LIB

Thomas Martin

Liberal

Mr. T. MARTIN.

I will give the hon. gentleman not only the names *of those reinstated, but the names of those appointed. I will give him the names privately.

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CON

Thomas Chisholm

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHISHOLM.

What we object to is that these men are breaking the law, which is that they must take tenders if the amount is over $5,000. They are breaking the law by doing such work by day's work, and they are using that day's work to make votes; that is the sum and substance of the whole thing ; and after the announcement made by the minister to-day, we understand why they are breaking the law. It the law makers are to be law breakers, what is the country coming to ?

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

My hon. friend cannot undei stand why they are breaking the law, Mr. BARR.

because as a matter of fact they are not breaking it.

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LIB

Henry Horton Miller

Liberal

Mr. MILLER.

With reference to the dismissal of officials, the Toronto 1 Telegram ' a Conservative paper, some time ago urged the Whitney government not to dismiss Liberal officials from office, saying that the Laurier government in that respect had set a good example.

At six o'clock, House took recess.

After Recess.

House resumed at eight a'clock.

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SECOND READINGS.


Bill (No. 149) respecting the South Shore Railway Company and the Quebec Southern Railway Company.-Mr. Brown. Bill (No. 150) respecting the Interprovincial and James Bay Railway Company.- Mr. Devlin. Bill (No. 153) for the relief of George Pearson.-Mr. Calvert. Bill (No. 164) to incorporte the Monarch Bank of Canada.-Mr. Gordon. Bill (No. 166) respecting certain Patents of the Ideal Manufacturing Company. Mr. Campbell. Bill (No. 167) for the relief of Arthur Howe Hersey.-Mr. Johnston (Lambton).


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May 31, 1905