May 31, 1905

CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

I was a little surprised to hear the minister-

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Robert Franklin Sutherland (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

I would call the attention of the hon. member (Mr. Daniel) to the fact that there is no motion before the chair.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

The House will be moved at once into Committee of Supply, and my hon. friend (Mr. Daniel) will then have his opportunity.

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Hon. W. S.@

FIELDING (Minister of Finance) moved that the House go into Committee of Supply.

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John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. W. DANIEL (St. John city).

I was rather surprised to hear the Minister of Railways intimate that there were so many trains leaving St. John. He said there was one out every hour I think.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I said one every few hours.

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John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

As a matter of fact after this train leaves at six o'clock in the morning, there is no train until 11.40. This train is booked to leave the city of St. John so early that it will be a great inconvenience. The mail must close so very much earlier that even the morning papers will hardly be able to be sent out by it. I cannot see, from the statement of the minister, why the hour must necessarily be changed.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Let me tell my hon. friend (Mr. Daniel) that that was with a view to meeting the maritime express which runs through from Montreal to Halifax and reaches Moncton somewhere about 10 a.m. When that maritime express reaches Moncton it can take the St. John traffic, or the traffic gathered up between St. John and Moncton on to Halifax if there be any. As a usual thing there is none. It only means a little inconvenience to the St. John people to get up a little earlier. But there are few people who get up to take the early morning train. They take the 11.40 train. Ordinarily-and I speak from personal experience-No. 2 train going out hitherto at 7 a.m., goes out absolutely without passengers and it is dependent for its earnings upon the traffic which it gathers between St. John and Moncton. I think the reasons which I have stated are good and sufficient. They are substantial. They are in the interest of economy and the arrangement, as I think, does not very greatly inconvenience the travelling public excepting a few who may wish to leave St. John in the morning for some intermediate point between St. John and Moncton. They have to get up an hour earlier. I am sorry for them, but it is impossible, as I stated at the very inception of my remarks, to contrive a timetable that will suit every point. Somebody has to be inconvenienced and I do not know of any people who should be more self-sacrificing that those of St. John.

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John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

At the same time I think that the hon. minister is making this change at the wrong time in the year because he must be aware of the fact that the amount of travel in that district is not as great in the winter time as it is in the summer time. People naturally in the summer time prefer to travel by day rather than by night.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

They have a night train. They have a train at six o'clock in the morning, they have a train at 11.40 in

the forenoon, and they have a train in the afternoon.

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John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

I still hope the hon. minister will reconsider his position in the matter and allow the time-table to remain as it was before.

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Jean-Baptiste Morin

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. B. MORIN.

I would like to ask the hon. minister if'it will be possible for him to arrange the running of the trains on the Intercolonial Railway in such a way as to connect with the Canada Atlantic Railway or the Canadian Pacific Railway at Montreal so that people coming from the east to Ottawa may arrive at their destination on the same day. The way the train has been running for years we are compelled to stay in Montreal over night. There is no train for Ottawa connecting with the train from the east. If that could be arranged it would be very handy for us.

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Peter Elson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. EMM EPSON.

I want to say in reply to my hon. friend from Dorchester (Mr. Morin) that I recognize the very great inconvenience that has resulted to passenger traffic from the east to Montreal and Ottawa. This has not been the fault of the Intercolonial Railway. I have repeatedly called the attention of the Grand Trunk Railway authorities to the matter since I have been in office, and the invariable reply has been that in consequence of there being two lines interested, that is the Canada Atlantic Railway and the Grand Trunk Railway, they could not make an arrangement such as we desired and for which we had asked, but I have the assurance not only of Mr. Wainwright, but also of Mr. Hays, that immediately on the acquisition of the Canada Atlantic Railway by the Grand Trunk Railway, which will occur, as I understand it, within a few weeks, if not within a few days, a train will leave Montreal at seven o'clock in the evening whereby passengers coming up by the Intercolonial Railway on the maritime express and reaching there at 5.30 will be enabled to reach Ottawa before ten o'clock at night, or at least not later than ten o'clock.

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Armand Renaud La Vergne

Liberal

Mr. A. LAVERGNE (Montmagny).

Mr. Speaker, whilst I have the opportunity, may I call the attention of my hon. friend the Minister of Railways and Canals (Mr. Em-merson) to the fact that there is a most serious inconvenience for people travelling from Ottawa on the Intercolonial Railway on Saturdays and Mondays? There is no maritime express.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

There is a maritime express on Monday.

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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Going down.

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Armand Renaud La Vergne

Liberal

Mr. A. LAVERGNE.

There is none on Monday coming up. A man who leaves Ottawa at the end of the week has to miss Mr. EMMERSON.

the sitting on Friday night if he wants to be home on Sunday or on Saturday evening, and if he wants to be here for the sitting on Monday he has to leave his home on Sunday night. I wonder if the hon. gentleman could afford any remedy for this most serious inconvenience suffered by people travelling to and from that part of Quebec.

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May 31, 1905