Whatever else happens the farmers' service really ought not to suffer.
Air. ARA1STRONG. The Minister of Agriculture has not been doing justice to the agricultural interests by not bringing Mr. FISHER
these estimates down before this because these are estimates which require to be debated very fully. There are questions that require very serious consideration and yet he tries to force his estimates through the House in a few moments. I cannot help noticing that at the end of each of these items there are these words :
Payments made from this sum not to be subject to the Civil Service Act.
As far as the civil servants are concerned they are apparently not to get anything out of these items which the minister is asking for. They are for men in the outside service. What proportion of this amount will go towuirds salaries ?
I could not say how much will go towards salaries off-hand, but I would explain these words. They were put in four or five years ago at the request of the late Auditor General. As a good many of these employees are in the city of Ottawa and paid here the late Auditor General said that they ought to have these words in to make sure they would be properly paid. The thing had been going on for many years without him saying anything about it, but four or five years ago he requested that in future these words should be put in.
That item of $115,000 takes in practically the whole dairy industry. There will be a very lengthy discussion on the cheese curing rooms. I understood that the cheese curing room at Brockville had been shut up for a number of years and rented to Air. Ayer, of Montreal, but I see a loss in connection with that of $1,036. It is the same with all of them and we will have to go into them in detail.