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March 2, 1909

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GRAHAM.

I will give the exact figures to-morrow. I do not like to give them from memory.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. REID.

I see in the Auditor General's Report at page W-83 a payment of $7,032.31 for staff last year.

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

That was before the lease was executed. We do not pay anything now.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. J. D. REID.

Will the minister tell me whether all of the lockmasters have been dismissed?

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

The lessee has taken them all over; we do not pay for them.

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Louis Joseph Papineau

Liberal
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Mr. PAPINEAU.

Since the canal was leased the lessees are paying all of the men except the overseer. This dyke which is at the head of the Beauharnois canal was built in 1852. After the canal was completed the engineers discovered that they had made a mistake in calculating the level and that instead of getting 9 feet of water they had only five or six feet. They proposed the construction of the dyke between Grand Island and the shore of the St. Lawrence at the entrance to the Beauharnois canal. This is the dyke that the minister is now asking authority to repair in order to keep the water at its proper level.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. J. D. REID.

Then this dyke is being built for the benefit of those who have leased the canal?

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Louis Joseph Papineau

Liberal
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Mr. PAPINEAU.

It was bought in 1852, and it has been repaired ever since to keep the water at the proper level.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. J. D. REID.

Exactly, but the canal was leased in the condition it was at that time. The government leased it to a company to be used for water-power only. Now they find that they have only five or six feet of water and they want to have this dyke repaired. They ask you to spend this money in order that you may give them nine or ten feet of water.

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

This has nothing more to do with lessees of the Beauharnois canal than it has to do with Timbuctoo. The same lake supplies our Soulanges canal and we must have the same level of water for it. This matter was threshed out in the House last year. There were a great many petitions received asking that the property of private individuals should be protected. If we do not repair this dyke we may spend twice as much to compensate people for land which may be drowned or flooded.

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. LANCASTER.

Why do not the lessees do that?

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

This was built fifty years ago.

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. LANCASTER.

They have leased the property and why should they not keep it in repair? It is they who get the benefit.

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

This dyke was built under a judgment of the court. We examined this question very closely an'd there is no question about the necessity of the work unless we are prepared to accept the responsibility for drowning out very many acres of land.

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. LANCASTER.

It is right that some one should repair it, but why should the government lease this property to a lessee and then repair it at its own expense? Why should not the lessee keep it in order?

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George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

This has nothing to do with the Beauharnois canal lease at all.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. J. D. REID.

The hon. gentleman that sits behind the Minister of Justice said that it was to increase the level.

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John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. J. D. REID.

Is it part of the Beauharnois canal system?

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March 2, 1909