March 9, 1909

CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

What are the dimensions of these piers?

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

I do not happen to have the length here because the appropriation was made two years ago, and the details were then given. We are building three at present.

Mr. SPROULE I would like to have the height, the length, and the width of these piers. What is supposed to be the life of this creosoted timber?

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Subtopic:   HOUSE OF COMMONS-ELEVATORS.
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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

So far it has given satisfaction and its use is becoming more general in recent years. I do not know that we have experience enough to say what the life of creosoted timber is.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

It seems to me it would be worth while ascertaining whether it would not be the part of wisdom, depending of course on the relative cost and permanency of other materials, to use cement and stone where the teredo worm has to be guarded against.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

In some cases we build entirely of concrete, but in this case we are building only the superstructure of concrete. The concrete costs considerably more.

Topic:   SUPPLY-CO-OPERATIVE SOCIETIES.
Subtopic:   HOUSE OF COMMONS-ELEVATORS.
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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

I would like the minister to get me the dimensions of these piers, how much of this work is to be concrete and how much stone, what kind of timber is used, and the quantity for each pier. If we have these details we can estimate the cost.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PTJGSLEY.

I will get that information.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

Formerly the experiment was tried of covering the piers with copper, and I think it was regarded as a greater preventative against the teredo worm than creosoted timber. When we are spending such large sums of money all these questions should be carefully considered by the minister.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

We will give that consideration.

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Subtopic:   HOUSE OF COMMONS-ELEVATORS.
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CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

Last year the minister stated that $12,000 worth of timber had been purchased. Was the purchase made by public tender?

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

No. There are very few dealers in creosoted timber in Canada. The market price was paid.

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CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

Was that timber delivered last year?

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Yes.

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CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

Does the minister think it is in the public interest to purchase $12,000 worth of timber without competition?

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Subtopic:   HOUSE OF COMMONS-ELEVATORS.
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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Not usually, but this is creosoted timber.

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CON

George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

Anybody can creosote.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

It is creosoted in the Southern States and there are only two concerns which do that work.

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CON

Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

What firm supplied this timber?

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

The Norfolk Creosoting works.

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Subtopic:   HOUSE OF COMMONS-ELEVATORS.
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March 9, 1909