April 6, 1909

CON

John Dowsley Reid

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. D. REID.

Read them in English too.

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Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

They are as follows:

Montreal, 12 aofit 1907.

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De L. C.@

de Tonnancour.

1907.

Aoiit 12-9 pardessus a $25 $225 00" 12-8 costumes a $30

240 00' 12-5 pants and sweaters a $10.50. 52 50" casquettes

24 50" 12-1 pardessus

32 00" 12-1 pardessus

32 00" 12-1 pardessus

32 00" 12-1 manteau

25 00" 12-1 coiffure

3 50" 12-6 blouses

78 00Total $744 50

Again there is no reference at all in these accounts to ladies' costumes, or ladies' blouses or ladies dresses. The translation

which was made by the Auditor-General was not absolutely correct but I will not say that it was incorrect. At all events what I take exception to is the fact that my hon. friend has thought fit to charge me before the House with having purchased ladies' dresses, when, in the book from which he was then reading, these words were not included. I hope my hon. friend will take the first oportunity of withdraw-Mr. BRODEUR .

ing the charge which he has made against me and if he does so it will prevent him and some of his friends from going into the country and trying to state that the Minister of Marine and Fisheries has been purchasing ladies' dresses. I may say for the information of my hon. friend that these blouses, costumes, overcoats and cloaks were for the use of the sailors and that we have been in the habit of purchasing these articles for years. I hope my hon. friend will be kind enough! to withdraw what he said.

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George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

Mr. Speaker, I was somewhat surprised this morning when I received the following letter:

Office of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, Ottawa, 6th April, 1909.

Geo. Taylor, Esq., M.P.,

House of Commons,

Ottawa.

Dear Mr. Taylor,-I beg to notify you that I intend to bring before the House to-day as a question of privilege, when the orders of the day are called, the charge that you made against me in your speech the other day to the effect that I had put my hand in the public chest for the purchase of a lady's cloak and ladies' costumes.

Believe me,

Yours sincerely,

(Sgd.) L. P. BRODEUR.

In speaking the other day I made use of the following language:

I want to ask the minister how much mud this expenditure took out of the ship channel? The money is charged to the ship channel. He will find these accounts in the Auditor General's Report at page O-163:

7 ladies blouses at $13.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Oh, oh.

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George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

I am surprised that the right hon. Prime Minister can laugh at that. He is the trustee of the people of this country, and yet he will allow one of his ministers to put his hand in the public chest and spend money like this.

I said nothing personal against the minister for spending money for his own use or for the country's use. I had been talking about the sailors being supplied with three dress suits at $40 apiece.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Oh, oh.

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James Kirkpatrick Kerr (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Order.

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George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

If the minister does not want this debate to be continued he will call off the bull dogs that set up a row every time I talk.

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James Kirkpatrick Kerr (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Order, the hon. gentleman will have to withdraw that expression.

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George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

I will withdraw the word 'bull dogs' and say their supporters. They are acting like that

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James Kirkpatrick Kerr (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Order.

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George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

I want to be courteous to the House and to the hon. gentlemen and I want to be treated that way, Mr. Speaker. If hon. gentlemen want to get up a row the same asi they got up on Friday night we can have it out.

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Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

I call the hon. gentleman to order. He is using threats towards members of the House.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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James Kirkpatrick Kerr (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

No hon. gentleman has the right to use threatening language in any form whatever.

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George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

There is no threat about that.

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Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

I ask your ruling, Mr. Speaker. The hon. gentleman has made a threat to this House.

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James Kirkpatrick Kerr (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Order.

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George Taylor

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEO. TAYLOR.

I will withdraw it then. I always obey the Chair.

1 ladies' cloak $25

8 ladies' costumes, each 80

The total of these accounts-

I did not want to read all the items as I had given the page of the Auditor-General's Report

-is $744.

The first item is caps, and the item does not say whether they are ladies or gentlemen's caps, but any one would assume that they are caps for the sailors. The next item is seven ladies blouses

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April 6, 1909