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January 28, 1910

PRIVATE BILLS.

FIRST READING.

Bill (No. 127) respecting the Grand Trunk Pacific Branch Lines Company.- Mr. Turriff. Mr. FOSTER

PRODUCTION OP PAPERS-THE SPEAKER'S RULING.

LIB

James Kirkpatrick Kerr (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal
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Mr. SPEAKER.

I promised the hon. member for York (Mr. Crocket) yesterday, that I would look into the question raised by him in reference to an answer to a question, on the order paper, of the hon. the Minister of Public Works. The answer referred to stated that a certain company declined to tender for certain work and that the said company gave as a reason for declining that they found certain difficulties attending upon the work. The hon. member for York asked the hon. minister to lay the papers referred to on the table. As a matter of fact, the answer of the hon. minister did not refer to any papers, and the hon. minister himself stated to the House that he was not sure there was any correspondence on the subject. The hon. member for York asked if he was not entitled to demand that the correspondence, if anyj be laid upon the table without an order of the House. -

The rule of parliament in respect to the production of papers is that no documents can be laid before the House unless in pursuance of some parliamentary authority. The proper parliamentary authority is, of course, an order of the House, which must be moved for under the rules of the House as to notice. There is, however, a rule of debate, which the hon. member for York probably had in his mind, to the effect that when a minister of the Crown quotes a public document in the House and founds upon it an argument or assertion, the document quoted from should be produced. This rule does not apply to the case in question, as I do not find that the hon. minister quoted from any public document; in fact, he stated that he was not sure there was any correspondence on the subject. I am of opinion, therefore, that the hon. member for York is not entitled to the production of any correspondence or papers, if any, without following the rule of the House as to papers, on motion after notice.

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CURRENCY ACT AMENDMENT.

Hon. SYDNEY FISHER-for Hon. W. S. Fielding-moved that the House go into committee on Tuesday next to consider the following proposed resolution: Resolved, that it is expedient to provide for a revision and amendment of the Currency Act, chapter 25, of the Revised Statutes. Further resolved, that the standard for gold coins of the currency of Canada be such that of one thousand parts by weight, nine hundred shall be of fine gold and one hundred of alloy; and the standard for silver coin shall be such that of one thousand parts by weight nine hundred and twenty-five shall be of fine silver and seventy-five of alloy ; that the standard weight for gold coin of the denomination of ten dollars in the currency of Canada he two hundred and fifty-eight grains, and the standard weight for a silver coin of the denomination of fifty cents be one hundred and eighty grains, and for other gold coins and silver coins proportionate weights respectively; that the Minister of Finance be authorized to issue out of the consolidated revenue fund such sums as may be necessary for the purchase of bullion in order to provide supplies of coins for the public service; and that the cost, charges and expenses incident to carrying out the provisions of any Act founded upon these resolutions be paid out of the consolidated revenue fund. Motion agreed to.

MILITIA PENSION ACT AMENDMENT.

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN moved that the House go into committee on Tuesday next to consider the following proposed resolution: Resolved, that it is expedient to amend the Militia Pension Act, chapter 42 of the Revised Statutes, 1906, as follows;- By inserting the following section immediately after section 6 thereof:- 6A. Time served in the Royal Northwest Mounted Police may also be included in the term of service of an officer for the purposes of this Act. 2. In such case the yearly deduction of five per cent upon average pay under this Act from any pension shall be reduced by the average yearly deduction from the officer's salary or pay as a police officer made under and for the purposes of Part II. of the Royal Northwest Mounted Police Act, or made under and for the purposes of the Civil Service Superannuation Act, or under Part I. of the Civil Service Superannuation and Retirement Act. 6B. The following times may also be included in the term of service of an officer for the purposes of this Act: (a) Time served with the military forces in South Africa in any one or more of the years 1899, 1900, 1901 and 1902, and the time during which the officer was invalided but remained on full pay on account of wounds, injuries or disease suffered or contracted on such service; .(h) Time served by an officer of the Canadian militia with the South African Constabulary ; (c) Time served with the third (special service) battalion of the Royal Canadian regiment of infantry at Halifax; (d) Time served with the Yukon field force in any one or more of the years 1898, 1899 and 1900; and (2) Time served in the employment of the government of Canada in connection with the militia stores prior to the organization of the Ordnance Stores Corps. Motion agreed to.

ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE ACT AMENDMENT.

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN moved that the House do on Tuesday next go into Com-84 mittee of the Whole to consider the following proposed resolution: Resolved, that it is expedient to amend the Royal Military College Act, chapter 43 of the Revised Statutes, 1906, by repealing section 7 and substituting therefor the following;- 7. The salaries, pay and allowances of the commandant and of the superior and subordinate staffs of the college shall be as fixed from time to time by the Governor in Council. Motion agreed to.

SALE OF BABY FARM.

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN moved that the House do on Tuesday next go into Committee of the Whole to consider the following proposed resolution: Resolved, that it is expedient to authorize the Governor in Council: (a) to sell and dispose of the Baby Farm, situate in the township of York, in the county of York, and province of Ontario, the acquisition of which was ratified by chapter 51 of the statutes of 1908. The purchase money received from the construction of barracks and buildings thereon for the housing of the militia and other military purposes in or in the vicinity of, the city of Toronto, (b)) to sell and dispose of that parcel of land in the municipality of Assiniboia, in the province of Manitoba, and now used and known as the Winnipeg Rifle Range. The purchase moneys received from the purchaser of the said range to be appropriated and used for the purchase of land for a rifle range in, or in the vicinity of, the city of Winnipeg, in the province of Manitoba. Motion agreed to.

INQUIRIES FOR RETURNS.

On the orders of the day being called.
CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. FOSTER.

I would ask the attention of the Minister of Railways to a return ordered on December 1, as to passes on the Intercolonial railway. That motion includes another for the production of the papers in reference to the purchase of ties on the Windsor branch. If the former papers could be brought down the later papers might remain for the present. I wish to ask the Prime Minister about a return passed on November 24, for papers with reference to the secretariat of the imperial conference. I would like to have them as soon as possible. I would like also to have the return to an order passed on December 1 for a return of the United States war vessels, or what we call war vessels, on the Great Lakes. A return was brought down last year answering a series of questions as to the Transcontinental Railway Commission's appointments. That return did not give the post office address or the location from which the appointees were appointed, and without that it does not answer my purpose.

COMMON ri

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal
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Mr. GRAHAM.

A similar return was asked this year and we are trying to complete what was brought down last year, making an addition to it. If I remember correctly, the commissioners said last year that it was impossible to give those particulars.

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CON

TRADE RELATIONS WITH GERMANY.

CON

Joseph Elijah Armstrong

Conservative (1867-1942)
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Mr. ARMSTRONG.

I wish to draw the attention of the government to an article which appears in the New York ' Herald ' of yesterday. The title of which is ' Dominion government refuses to' accept German concession for the removal of the surtax.' I wish to ask the government whether it is true that they have received a communication from the German government in regard to the removal of the surtax and whether they have decided to take any action in the matter. The article goes on to say that Italy and Belgium, both of whom will be hurt by the Franco-Canadian treaty which goes into effect January 1, are pressing the government for as favourable concessions as France secures and are prepared to retaliate if they are not accorded. I would ask the government whether Italy and Belgium have also pressed on thq government the necessity for better trade relations and whether they have been refused in the same manner as, according to this article, Germany ha3 been. This is an important article, we have the privilege of having a member in the press gallery who represents this paper and whose presence, I am sure, we all appreciate and if the Prime Minister will be good enough to answer those two questions I would appreciate it.

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January 28, 1910