William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)
Liberal
Mr. PUGSLEY.
No, it is raised by electrical power.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
No, it is raised by electrical power.
Mr. J. HAGGART.
I have seen them; there is one on the Sault Ste. Marie canal.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
No, there is nothing like this in America.
Mr. J. HAGGART.
Oh, yes there is.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
No.
Mr. J. HAGGART:
Pardon me, I have
seen them.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
We sent an expert to Europe for the purpose of examining the lock and dam where the conditions are similar, but there is no place in America where there is a similar contrivance.
Mr. J. HAGGART.
The dam may be not exactly like the others, but the old dam used for the purpose of stopping the water above the Sault Ste. Marie canal is similar. It is a frame work and they let it into the river with pulleys.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
It is altogether different.
Mr. J. HAGGART.
And when it is not in use it is lifted up and taken on shore. This is a plan that has been used very often for the purpose of blocking up rivers.
Mr. CONMEE.
The hon. gentleman (Mr. Haggart) has reference to the temporary gates used on the canal in case of accident.
Mr. J. HAGGART.
It is for canal purposes.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
I have no doubt the foundation principle is the same. But we believe that we have vastly improved upon that by means of this system of lifting curtains.
Mr. J. HAGGART.
No doubt.
Mr. MEIGHEN.
Perhaps we are not warranted in asking the minister to withhold
the item, but the members for the two constituencies directly interested are not here. My hon. friend from Winnipeg (Mr. A. Haggart) has not yet returned from his Easter holidays, but I understand that he will 'be here on Saturday. My hon. friend from Selkirk (Mr. Bradbury) is in the city, but I have been unable to get in touch ' with him to have him here while this vote is under consideration. I would like if the minister would permit either of these gentlemen at a later stage to speak on the matter.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
I would be very glad to. Both of these hon. gentlemen have already spoken on the question, and I am sure that they would regret that there should be any delay in the passing of the item. The hon. member for Selkirk a short time ago spoke in very strong terms of the importance of finishing up these approaches and of the very great importance of the work. But when they come there will be nc objection to their speaking in regard to this when any other item is under discussion, of course, with the permission of the chairman.
St. Jolm harbour, New Brunswick-improvements, $450,000.
Mr. PUGSLEY.
This is for the purpose of continuing the work of dredging in the harbour of St. John and of completing the new pier which is now under construction. The work is all under contract, and we anticipate that this amount would be required during the current year.
Mr. DANIEL.
Will any of this be spent in Courtenay bay?
Mr. PUGSLEY.
I am unable to tell my hon. friend at the present time whether it will or not.
Mr. DANIEL.
Could the minister state whether the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Company or the National Transcontinental Railway Commissioners have purchased any land at the head of Courtenay bay?