April 3, 1914

CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

I think there is a

good deal in what the hon. gentleman says. This resolution does not exactly express the idea. But I have the proposed Bill before me, and I think it is much clearer.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL:

We have not the Bill

before us. Would the minister read it?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

It says:

A person who has not passed the required Civil Service examination may be employed as a temporary railway mail clerk for a period of not more than one year.

That makes it clear.

Mr. C'ARVELL: Yes, but then section

C qualifies this broad statement that he cannot be employed for more than a year. Under this section the minister has power to advance him by $100 a year and keep him for four years.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

I admit that that construction is possible when you read the resolution. But when you read the Bill-

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL:

Will the hon. minister send the Bill over? We have net a copy.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

The change is automatic-

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

He is not appointed

until after one year's probation. After that probation, if he passes the preliminary examination, an Order in Council is passed putting him on. Then he advances automatically by $100 a year until he reaches $1,000 a year.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

Then, if he passes the

qualifying examination he is put on a par with the other railway mail clerks?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

Yes.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL:

What is the number of the Bill?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

It has no number; it has not yet been introduced. We are still on the resolution, and that is why I suggest that we should leave the discussion until we are in Committee on the Bill. W'e can go into the matter fully at that stage. In the meantime I will call the attention of the officers of the department to the remarks that have been made. I wish to have this matter made clear myself.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL:

I beg pardon; I thought * we were in Committee on the Bill.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

I wished to satisfy my hon. friend (Mr. Carvell) that I

4 p.m. was right. In view of the very difficult examination to which the railway mail clerks are subjected, the Postmaster General is obliged at times to take temporary mail clerks. They are purely and simply labourers, and have a labourer's stipend and cannot advance unless they show that they have the necessary qualifications. According to this pro-

posed plan, they will be appointed at $600 a year and will advance by $100 a year until they reach $1,000. Then, if they pass the qualifying examination, they will be on a par with the regular mail clerks and can reach a maximum of $1,400 a year.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL:

I quite agree with my

hon. friend from Rouville. But I have seen some of these examinations and they are the greatest farce ever known. What difference does it make in the appointment of a railway mail clerk whether he can tell what the capital is of some state in China or Siam?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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CON

Louis-Philippe Pelletier (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PELLETIER:

The hon. gentleman is mistaken; the railway mail clerks are not subjected to these ridiculous questions.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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LIB

Frank Broadstreet Carvell

Liberal

Mr. CARVELL:

I have seen the questions and some of them seem to me ridiculous. The proper course for the Postmaster General is to change the examination, and not to take power to himself to drive a coach-and-four through the Civil Service Act. If the examination were put upon a reasonable basis, I do not think there would be much difficulty in getting the proper number of qualified men. The qualifications a man should possess in order to be an efficient railway mail clerk include a knowledge of English, ability to read writing of almost any kind, and an intimate knowledge of the geography of his own country and of many other countries in the world. It may take a year for a man to study up what he needs to know. But I would suggest that the minister should simplify the examination, boil it down to the necessities, and not take too much power to himself.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS-SUPPLY BILL.
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.
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THE ROYAL ASSENT.


A message was delivered by Ernest John Chambers, Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod, as follows: Mr. Speaker, His Honour the Deputy of His Royal Highness, the Governor General, desires the immediate presence of this honourable body in the Chamber of the honourable the Senate. Accordingly the House went up to the Senate. And the House being returned, Mr. SPEAKER informed the House that His Honour the Deputy of His Royal Highness the Governor General, had been pleased to give, in His Majesty's name, the Royal asisent to the following Bills: An Act respecting the National Transcontinental Railway. 151J An Act respecting the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Company. An Act respecting the West Ontario Pacific Railway Company. An Act respecting the Tillsonburg, Lake Erie and- Pacific Railway Company. An Act respecting the Ottawa, Northern and Western Railway Company. An Act respecting the Lachine, Jacques Cartier and Maisonneuve Railway Company. An Act respecting the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada. An Act to incorporate the Central Western Canada Railway Company. An Act respecting the Canadian Pacific Railway Company. An Act to incorporate Pacific, Peace River and Athabaska Railway Company. An Act respecting the Dominion Atlantic Railway Company. An Act respecting the Joliette and Lake Manuan Colonization Railway Company. An Act respecting the Ottawa and Ungava Railway Company. An Act respecting the Thessalon and Northern Railway Company. An Act respecting the Esquimau and Nanaimo Railway Company. An Act respecting the Central Railway Company of Canada. An Act respecting the Quinze and Blanche River Railway Company. An Act respecting the Lake Erie and Northern Railway Company. An Act respecting the Canadian Railway Accident Insurance Company, and to change its name to ' The Globe Indemnity Company of Canada.' An Act respecting the Vancouver Life Insurance Company of Vancouver, B.C., and to change its name to ' The Vancouver Life Insurance Company.' An Act respecting the Burrard Inlet Tunnel and Bridge Company. An Act respecting the Acadia Loan Corporation, and to change its name to ' The Mortgage Corporation of Nova Scotia.' An Act to incorporate the Bank of Alberta. An Act respecting the Sterling Trusts Corporation. An Act to amend an Act relating to the establishment and expenses of the International Joint Commission under the Waterways Treaty of January 11, 1909. An Act respecting Queen's University at Kingston. An Act respecting the McClary Manufacturing Company. An Act respecting British Trust Company. An Act to incorporate the Norfolk and Elgin Railway Company. An Act respecting the Calgary and Pernie Railway Company. An Act respecting the Canadian Northern Railway Company. An Act to amend the Weights and Measures Act. An Act for granting to His Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of the financial year ending respectively the 31st March, 1914, and the 31st March, 1915.


POST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT.


The House 'again in Committee, Mr. Blondin in the Chair.


April 3, 1914