June 12, 1914

LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

At all events I' shall not accuse my -hon. friend of mentioning the matter to-day just because the election is on; but may not the Civil Service properly

draw the inference that they are being fed on hope?

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

No, they are too intelligent for that.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

The Minister of Finance realizes that:

Hope springs eternal in the human hreast,

Man never is, but always to he, blest.

I am satisfied that these words have been repeated over and over again by members of this Government and by members' generally of the Conservative party because they believe that they can feed people with promises and they will be satisfied even with very little performance. I have not been able to be in attendance during this session, but in looking over the records' I would say that so far as legislation is concerned it has been one of the most barren sessions of Parliament which has ever taken place in the country. Outside of the raid upon the treasury under which some $45,000,000 was pledged to one concern and the abortive efforts in regard to the Farmers Bank, what is there during the session to which the Government can point as* a record of useful performance?

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

My hon. friend has not

been here, he does not know.

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

My hon. friend did1 not

read the right papers.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

I can read the record

of the Vote$ and Proceedings and from that record of what has been accomplished by this Government I say they have been simply marking time and asking the House to mark time during this entire session. Here we are, after five months of a session, beginning on the 15th day of January, and my hon. friend the Minister of Finance comes down at the end of the five months and on the last day of the session explains a Bill in reference to the Civil Service for next session. I think the members of the Civil Service have a right to complain.

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

They will not, do not worry about that.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

If not it is because they are being fed on hopes and promises.

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

They are sensible people.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

If they are sensible

I think they will feel that my hon. friend ought to have moved before this. My hon. friend says he has not had time really to

attend to this matter. He referred to the fact, which we all regret, that he was ill during a part of the session. I think he takes too much upon his own shoulders.

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

I have had that opinion

myself.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

Why should my hon.

friend, whose department is not one connected with the administration of justice in the country or the drafting of legislation, seek to do all these things himself? What is the Department of Justice for? They have a Minister of Justice, they have a deputy Minister of Justice, and recently the Government weTe authorized to appoint special assistants at salaries of $5,000 a year each and a great many others as additions to the legal department. Is it not their duty to draft legislation? Why did not my hon. friend turn the matter over to the Department of Justice, have a Bill prepared before the House met, or during the early part of this session, and have it brought down?

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

We had it prepared.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

My hon. friend kept it pigeon-holed for two months because my hon. friend had the idea that there was nobody else in the Government, who, while he was ill, could take charge of the Bill and present it fairly.

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

That is the confidence I

have in myself.

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LIB

William Pugsley

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY:

But my hon. friend will have to remember, as we all have to remember, that there is none of us so able and so important but that others can take our places. I do think that, after having this Bill prepared two months ago, it ought not to have been pigeonholed, it ought not to have been kept until the dying hours of the session; it ought to have been prepared long ago, presented for the consideration of the House and passed into law. If my hon. friend felt that this House was too busy dealing with the Canadian Northern, Messrs. Mackenzie and Mann, and Farmers Bank matters, it might have been presented to, and been considered by, the Senate.

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

And the Grand Trunk

Pacific.

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CON

William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE:

There were eight-hour

speeches on that.

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June 12, 1914