March 24, 1915

CON

Mr. COCHRANE: (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. Yes.

2. F. W. Sumner, Moncton, D. G. Kirk, Antigonish, and William Cooke, North Sydney, $69,992; Smith, Merrithew Company, Fredericton, $68,832.50; Henry J. Phillips, R. E. Mutch, Archibald McLean, Charlottetown, $66,501; E. B. Evans, Montreal, $65,593; F. L. Boone, St. John, $55,353.60; Messrs. Sherwood and Sherwood, Toronto, $49,834.70; Messrs. Charles Billy and W. A. Hall, Pembroke, $48,259.10; Kenneth McLaggan, St. Marys, John T. Mc-Bean, Nasliwaak Bridge, and E. A. Bell, Fredericton, $47,525.90; John W. McManus Co., Ltd., Memramcook, $46,091; Messrs. Soper and McDougall, Ottawa, $45,866.60.

3. Yes. Soper and McDougall, at $45,866.60, their tender being the lowest.

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Subtopic:   MONCTON SUBWAY.
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WAR SUPPLIES-HAY AND OATS.

LIB

Mr. PROULX:

Liberal

1. How many persons, firms or companies have contracted with the Department of Militia to press hay for the use of the Canadian and British forces?

2. Where is the hay being pressed?

3. Are the plants and machinery furnished by the department to the contractors, or do they furnish their own plants and machinery?

4. What price do they get per ton for pressing the said hay?

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Major General HUGHES:

Nil.

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LIB

Mr. PROULX:

Liberal

1. How many tons of hay were purchased in the county of Prescott since the 1st August, 1914, by the Department of Militia and Defence?

2. What was the price paid per ton?

3. Who purchased the said hay for the department, and what remuneration was allowed to the purchasing agents?

4. How many bushels of oats were purchased in the county of Prescott since the said date by the Department of Militia and Defence, and what was the price per bushel paid?

5. Who purchased the said oats, and what remuneration was allowed to the purchasing agent?

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Major General HUGHES:

No record

that any hay or oats were purchased in the county of Prescott by this department.

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UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS.


Mr. A. K. Maclean: For a return showing the names of all persons from whom lands have been purchased, the quantity of land so acquired, and the amount paid therefor, in connection with the Dartmouth and Dean's post cilice branch of the Intercolonial railway since the date of return numbered 128 made to Parliament at the last regular session thereof? Mr. Boulay: For a copy of all agreements or contracts made by the Government of Canada with the Great North Western Telegraph Company, in virtue of which telegraphic apparatus have been placed in the towers and lighthouses belonging to the Government along the St. Lawrence. Mr. Hepburn: For a return showing the number of steam vessels purchased by the Government from 1896 to October 15, 1911 ; where purchased, and from whom ; the names of the vessels, and the prices paid; the number of steam vessels purchased by the Government from October 15, 1911, to February 1, 1915; where purchased, and from whom; the names of the vessels, and the prices paid.


WAR APPROPRIATION BILL.


On motion of Sir ROBERT BORDEN the House went into committee, Mr. Sevigny in the Chair, to consider the following proposed resolutions: 1. That it is expedient to provide that a sum not exceeding one hundred million dollars ($100,000,000) be granted to His Majesty towards defraying any expenses that may be incurred by or under the authority of the Governor in Council during the year ending the 31st day of March, 1916, for: (a) The defence and security of Canada; (b) The conduct of naval or military operations in or beyond Canada; (c) Promoting the continuance of trade, industry and business communications, whether by means of insurance or indemnity against war risk or otherwise; and (d) The carrying out of any measures deemed necessary or advisable by the Governor in Council in consequence of the existence of a state of war. 2. That the Governor in Council be empowered to raise by way of loan, temporary or otherwise, such sums of money as are required for the purpose of making any payment authorized by any Act founded on these resolutions. 3. That the principal raised by way of loan under this Act and under the War Appropriation Act, 1914, and the interest thereon shall be chargeable on the Consolidated Revenue Fund.


CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

The statement which has been given to me in regard to the expenditures by various departments of the

Government under the appropriation, up to the 30th January, 1915, is as follows:

Department. Expenditure.

Justice $ 10,900 14Trade and Commerce. . 3,005,540 56Militia and Defence . . 32,221,980 00Naval Service

3,090,000 00Dominion Police . . . . 101,024 27Secretary of State. . . . 11,489 28Privy Council

9,436 64External Affairs

1,588 99Post Office

15,000 00Finance

147,333 33Internment operations. . 60,365 63Total

$38,674,658 84

It is possible that some other amounts may be required to be charged against this vote; for example, some further items of expenditure by the Department of Naval Service and possibly some items by the Royal Northwest Mounted Police. The Department of Finance is now preparing a statement to a later date, namely, to the 28th day of February, 1915. I shall have that ready by the time we are in committee on the Bill founded on this resolution, and I will then communicate it to the House.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

We have no objection to offer at all. We may require some explanations with reference to these expenditures, but we can take that up on the naval and militia estimates.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

Yes. I have asked the various departments to make a memorandum for me of all information that we could foresee as likely to be called for. If the right hon. gentleman would be good enough to give me a memorandum of any information which he would desire, and which perhaps we might not foresee, I will have special inquiries made as to that.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

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LIB

Alexander Kenneth Maclean

Liberal

Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:

I suppose it would be quite agreeable if, on the naval and militia estimates, one were to make suggestions as to the method of expenditure, or departmental policy as to details, and to discuss it upon that occasion?

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

I would be very glad indeed to have some suggestions from my hon. friends on the other side of the House. As fari as this vote is concerned, we regard it as not a vote for any particular department of the Government, and therefore as a vote as to which the Governor in Council has a special and important responsibility. Consequently the expenditures under it have been required to be authorized by Order in Council. That principle was necessarily departed from in the first two or three weeks of the war, because expenditures which were properly chargeable to this vote had been made before the vote was actually passed by Parliament. These expenditures were made principally by the Department of Militia and Defence, and the course taken was this. The department made a complete report of these expenditures, with, I think, all the important vouchers. That was presented to Council and was referred by Council to the Treasury Board, which made a pretty careful investigation into it as far as they were able to. do so. Then, the report of the Treasury Board in regard to these expenditures was submitted to Council, and, if my memory serves me correctly, was ratified by Council. It was then provided by Order in Council, which I think was laid on the table of the House, that no expenditures under ! this appropriation should be made except under the authority of Council. That course has been acted upon since. I am obliged to my right hon. friend for his suggestions as to the information which is desired, and I must say that his request in that regard is entirely reasonable. I will ask the several ministers, who have had anything to do with the matters which he has mentioned, to be prepared with the necessary information when the House is in committee on the Bill.

As far as the defence and security of Canada are concerned, I might say one word at the present moment. In connection with the military defence of the country, of course there are many matters that are of a confidential character; but I should be very glad indeed, with respect to these confidential matters, to communicate any facts of importance to my right hon. friend or to any of the members on the other side of the House who might desire to be made especially acquainted with them. One subject Ithat necessarily engaged our attention in the early part of the war was the security of public buildings and structures belonging -to the people of Canada and under the control of the Government. The course which we took in that regard was this: An Order in Council was passed directing that any department of the Government which might think it necessary to have military protection for the buildings or works or structures in question, should communicate with the Department of Militia and Defence, and the department was instructed to provide, and undertook the responsibility of providing, any military protection which might be necessary. As far as other buildings, works or structures were concerned, it might happen that the department would feel that police protection would be more advisable than military protection. The same Order in Council provided that if such was the opinion of any department of the Government, then the minister, or the officers of that department, should communicate with the Minister of Justice, and the commissioner of Dominion Police was given all necessary power and authority to add immediately to the police force under his charge as might be necessary for carrying out the requirements of any department of the Government.

In regard to " the continuance of trade, industry and business communications," my colleague the Minister of Trade and Commerce (Sir George Foster) has had a great deal of work and a great deal of responsibility in that regard, as to which he will be prepared, either now or when the House is in committee on the Bill, to give full information to the House and to the country.

If any hon. gentleman on either side of the House should suggest that there is any information which it may be desirable to afford when the House is in Committee on the Bill, I shall be glad to have him mention it now or to send me a memorandum, and the Government will of course deem it

its duty to afford all such information, so far as it is not of a confidential character.

Resolutions reported and concurred in.

Sir ROBERT BORDEN thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 87, for granting to His Majesty aid for Military and Naval Defence.

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Motion agreed to, and Bill read the first time.


INSURANCE COMPANIES.


On motion of Hon. C. J. Doherty (Minister of Justice), Bill No. 79, to authorize certain extensions of time to insurance companies, was read the second time, and the House went into Committee thereon, Mr. Sevigny in the Chair.


LIB

William F. Carroll

Liberal

Mr. CARROLL:

Does this apply to all insurance companies?

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Subtopic:   INSURANCE COMPANIES.
Sub-subtopic:   EXTENSION OF TIME.
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March 24, 1915