April 10, 1915

CON

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOHERTY:

And out of Canada. The law will reach anybody within the limits of Canada, so that the penalties provided are not wholly nugatory. I do not think we would be justified in leaving out these penalties because they do not extend so far as we would like them to.

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Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

If an offence in connection with this Act should be committed by a soldier in Canada, could the legal punishment be applied to him?

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CON

Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOHERTY:

I know of no reason why the punishment is not susceptible of being applied to a soldier. There may be conditions prevailing in this country which might justify the military authorities resisting any attempt of the civil power to proceed against a soldier, but as an abstract proposition, when a man becomes a soldier he becomes bound by the military law, but he does not cease to be bound by the civil law.

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Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

As far as an abstract

proposition is concerned, of course the minister is right, but as a concrete proposition I am afraid he is not right; that is to say, as my hon. friend is aware, it would be a matter of very serious difficulty to undertake to enforce the law against a soldier on active service in Canada who by the terms of this special legislation is given the right to vote, and who contravenes the ordinary law of the land.

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Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOHERTY:

I may be ignorant on

the subject, but I am not aware of that. I do not think that in any conditions that we can foresee at the present time in Canada, if a soldier violates the criminal law of the country, he will not be amenable to the civil tribunal. I have had occasion comparatively recently to look into the question with regard to certain things that have occurred; and so far as' my opinion may be valuable, I would say that taking conditions as they stand to-day in Canada, the soldier who would be guilty of a criminal offence would be liable to be tried before our ordinary crimirlal courts and 149*

dealt with accordingly. I may point to the instance of the militiamen who, for an act performed ostensibly in the course of their military duties-I refer to the recent unfortunate shooting accident alt Fort Erie- were brought before the criminal courts, and although it is true the jury found no bill, all that means is that the civil tribunal decided that there was no cause of action; but the fact that they were brought before those courts-and there has been no suggestion made that they were not amenable to those courts-shows that in the judgment of those courts there was no question as to their responsibility before a civil tribunal. In connection with another unfortunate instance of the same kind which occurred in Montreal, I had occasion to look as carefully as I am capable of looking into the question, and I certainly reached the conclusion that in that instance,, if it had been possible to reach the man concerned, he would have been liable to be prosecuted before the criminal courts of the country.

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Daniel Duncan McKenzie

Liberal

Mr. McKENZIE:

The principle of the law which the minister has laid down is well recognized, that is, that a soldier can be tried before our civil courts; but the the case which the hon. minister mentioned is a case where the crime was committed within Canadian territory. I do not suppose the minister says that if a soldier committed a crime beyond Canada, the ciiminal courts would take hold of him after he oanie back to Canada.

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Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOHERTY:

I said to the right hon. leader of the Opposition that we do not pretend to say we could prosecute a soldier or any other man in Canada for a crime committed outside of Canada.

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Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

There is a jurisdiction of the military authorities in civil matters to some degree. I am not altogether wrong in making that suggestion.

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Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOHERTY:

I do not say that there is no military jurisdiction, but a man may find himself subject to both military and civil jurisdiction. We might also have conditions in this country which would justify the military authorities in refusing to allow interference on behalf of the civil court. I hope we shall not have those conditions, and I see no reason to indicate that we shall have them in this country. I do not wish to be too dogmatic in any sense upon this subject; all that I would like to say is that the fact that a man becoming a soldier may become subject

to military law and therefore perhaps liable for an act which he has done under the military law and punishable for if, does not relieve him of the liability to be tried under the civil law, if that same act is an offence under the civil law.

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Frank Oliver

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER:

I quite appreciate that; but I am trying to draw attention to the particular condition of men in military service who have transgressed the civil law more or less unintentionally, where the parties aggrieved assume to take action against them. My hon. friend has said that that action can be taken. I desire to say that there are serious difficulties in taking such action, and there are certain reasons of public policy which may be very well appreciated why that action should not be taken, and to that extent, the condition is not the same as in the case of an ordinary elector.

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Charles Joseph Doherty (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOHERTY:

I do not want to suggest that a soldier is not in any respect under any circumstances in any different position from a man who is not a soldier. It would be pretty difficult to get down exactly what the different circumstances are. I move that the committee rise and report progress, and ask leave to sit again.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

When will this discussion be resumed?

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Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

On Monday, if possible. I understand that there was to be some discussion with regard' to the report of the committee appointed to investigate the question of boots.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER:

That is the first order,but the next order will be this?

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Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

Yes.

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Motion agreed to, and progress reported. At six o'clock, the House took recess. The House resumed at eight o'clock.


THE CANADIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCES.

PRESENT MOBILIZATION AND ORGANIZATION.


The House in Committee of Supply, Mr. Blain in the Chair.


CON

Robert Laird Borden (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir ROBERT BORDEN:

I moved the House into Committee of Supply for a purpose which I mentioned to the, right hon. leader of the Opposition at six o'clock. It seemed to me desirable that some informa-

tion should he afforded to the House as to the present condition of mobilization and organization of the Canadian expeditionary forces. I do not propose to introduce any unnecessary matter; and I will premise by giving a brief statement of what was announced last autumn 'as the intention of the Government, immediately after the departure of the first contingent.

On October 19, an announcement, which was carefully considered, was made to the effect that from that time until the end of the war, or so long as the War Office should deem it advisable, Canada would keep continuously in training and under -arms 30,000 men. It was also announced that further contingents should go forward from time to time as might be required, and as the War Office should be in a position to receive them; and that upon each contingent going forward a number of men equal to the number which had been so despatched should be further enlisted, so that from time to time, during the continuance of the war, contingents would go forward as required, and 30,000 men would be kept continuously under training in Canada.

About a month later, on November 23, a further announcement was made that the number of men so to be kept continuously in training in Canada should be increased from 30,000 to 50,000. It was then pointed out that the number of men that could be usefully trained in Canada was limited by the following considerations:

1. Provision of necessary accommodation for them during the winter.

2. Provision of arms and equipment. Training for a lengthy period without arms and equipment is not considered very effective.

3. The necessity of organization by different arms and branches: infantry, cavalry, artillery, engineers, supply, transport, and medical services. A large surplus of some particular arm may be available, but is practically ineffective in itself.

4. The ability of the British Government to receive and finally train expeditionary forces from Canada, in view of their enormous task in training an immense army in the British Isles,

In the same announcement, it was laid down as above mentioned, that after taking into account all these considerations, it had been determined that the number of men under training could be increased in the immediate future to 50,000 in addition to about 8,000 troops engaged ir

garrison and outpost duty; and that instructions would immediately be given that the additional number thus proposed should be enlisted forthwith. It was further announced that as soon as the second contingent should go forward, a further enlistment of 17,000 men would be made, bringing the total up to 108,000 men. It was also explained in the same memorandum, which was made public, that the forwarding of further expeditionary forces from time to time would be followed by the enlistment of men to take their places for training in Canada, as arranged in the proposals which had been made public on October 19.

I have very great pleasure in informing the committee that this programme has been carried out up to date. The result as given to the Minister of Militia by the Adjutant General shows that there are under arms and in training, including all ranks in Canada and abroad, the following numbers:

Overseas: the first contingent of the Canadian expeditionary force and the reinforcements which have since been sent forward, 35,420. In Bermuda, the Royal Canadian Regiment, 982. In St. Lucia, detachment for garrison, 100. In Canada, the second contingent of the Canadian expeditionary force, 22,272. Reserve Infantry battalions and Canadian Mounted Rifles, 27,079. Recruited and organized for overseas service, but not mobilized, 3,500. Total overseas forces, either abroad or organized at home, 89,353 men. In addition to this there are in Canada units of the active militia on active service, garrison and outpost duty, 9,777 officers and men, and the permanent force, 2,430 men, making a grand total of 101,560 men now under arms, either in Canada or abroad.

In order to enable the committee to estimate the numerical strength of that force, I may point out that it constitutes a force more than four times greater than the British force under Wellington's command at Waterloo; and it is nearly double the total force of either Wellington or Napoleon at Waterloo., I think that the House and the country may congratulate themselves that, in a period of not more than eight months, so great a force as this has been organized, and to a very considerable extent armed and equipped. The number of guns which went abroad with the first contingent is nearly as great as the total number of guns that Wellington had at his disposal in the battle of Waterloo. Of course, it is not a great army, compared with the enormous armies that have been marshalled on the plains of

Europe; hut considering the fact that this country has never intended or desired to possess a great military organization, I venture to say that the results achieved during that comparatively brief period may be regarded as thoroughly satisfactory, in view of the conditions of urgency under which the undertaking was carried out. We must not forget that a modern army is, to a very considerable extent, a great business organization. It is useless to have men without drill and training. It is equally useless to send them into battle without thorough organization in all the arms of the service to which I have alluded. It is also useless to organize an army without a thorough equipment of rifles, ammunition, guns, stores, supplies, commissariat, medical services and everything that goes to make up the wonderfully complex organization of a great modern army.

To summarize, there have been sent abroad over 36,000 men. and in fulfilment of the programme laid down last autumn there are in training in Canada for further expeditionary forces about 53,000 men; or if account is taken of the units of the active militia on active service and of the permanent force, there are in Canada now in training or under arms over 65,000 men.

I would like to observe also that the physique, character and intelligence of these men, both those already sent overseas and those now in training in Canada, are all that could be desired and such as reflect the greatest credit upon this country. Those of us who have had the opportunity, which has been afforded to me, to see the various regiments in different parts of Canada, and those who have had merely the opportunity to see those regiments which have passed through Ottawa or to observe the men who are carrying on their training upon the grounds of Parliament, must certainly feel that Canada has every reason to be proud of her sons who are about proceeding to the front to represent her cause and defend her interests upon the battlefields of Europe.

For further information I may refer to a memorandum which has been prepared for the Minister of Militia by the chief of the general staff. The first division under General Alderson and the Princess Patricias Canadian Light Infantry and a number of administrative units are in France. The Royal Canadian Regiment is in Bermuda, and a detachment of Canadian artillery has been sent to the West Indies. The Royal Canadian Dragoons, Lord Strathcona's Horse and the Royal Canadian Horse Artil

lory have been included in a mounted brigade which, under the command of General Seely, remains for the present in England. The second Canadian contingent, that is the second Canadian division, with certain units required for administrative purposes, is still in Canada; but as soon as it can be suitably accommodated in England its embarkation will proceed.

It is proper that I should make here a statement which may set at rest more or less comment in the press and more or less surprise which has been manifested from time to time at the delay which has taken place in sending forward the second contingent. That contingent could have been despatched so far as we are concerned, at least three months ago; and the War Office was fully informed of that fact and has been kept advised from time to time that it could be sent forward whenever desired. The date at which it shall go forward was arranged some two months ago. Hon. members will of course understand that it would be absolutely contrary to the public interest that I should give to them any information as to that date. I desire to make this statement for the purpose of setting at rest any suggestion that this contingent is not ready to proceed or that it has not been ready to proceed for the last three months. We know perfectly well the reasons on account of which the War Office have thought it not desirable that the second contingent should proceed to Britain at an earlier date. Those reasons commend themselves to the judgment of the authorities of the War Office and we have seen no reason whatever to differ from the view they have taken. Hon. gentlemen will remember that there are a great many essentials to be taken into account before an army can be sent to the front and all the different arms of the service organized. They will remember also that the enormous numbers of men now under training in Great Britain render it not the easiest task in the world for the authorities of the War Office to make provision for the proper accommodation and training of contingents coming from the overseas dominions; and they will perhaps readily believe that owing to the unfortunate conditions which confronted our men during the past winter upon Saldabulry plain the iaulthot-ities of the War Office and specially Lord Kitchener himself are thoroughly anxious that when the second contingent of the Canadian expeditionary force does go forward there will be no room for any possible criticism in that regard.

In the meantime it has been thought by the War Office that the training of the men could proceed as effectively in Canada as in Great Britain; and thus the date at which they are to go forward has been delayed. In all this we have followed precisely and absolutely the desire and the expressed wishes of the authorities of the War Office.

Up to the present no call has been made on the Canadian Mounted Kifles; but their turn is likely to come whenever the tactical situation changes in the western theatre of operations. I am informed by the Minister of Militia that we are within reasonable distance of the time when a Canadian expeditionary force of some 50,000 men will be serving overseas; and the chief of the general staff further advises him that in order to maintain that force in strength and efficiency a continuous supply of reinforcements, properly brained and fully equipped, will need to be provided; to say nothing of remounts and constant replenishments of material of every kind. The total necessities cannot be absolutely determined, because it is impossible to say with .anything like certainty how long the war will last; and it is obvious that the conditions which at present govern the conduct of the campaign in Europe are likely to change in the course of time. But we know there are certain data upon which the necessities of war can be calculated, and reinforcements must be prepared on a corresponding scale.

Now, with a view to this the Minister of Militia and Defence, in consultation with his officers, has made provision for. the establishment of overseas training depots, one or more for each arm of the service. Already some of the surplus units which embarked with the first contingent are being utilized for the purpose. These depots will be kept supplied by units maintained in Canada, and will furnish drafts for the units serving at the front. So far as can at present be foreseen, we are informed by the general staff that a total of 150,000 men will be required if the war should last another year: That is to say, an original force of 50,000; in addition to that 50,000 men sent overseas for reinforcements; and in addition to that 50,000 men kept under training in Canada, according to the announcement which was made in November last. It must be obvious that this is a very considerable undertaking, and that anything in the way of an absolutely cut and dried plan cannot be laid down at the present moment beyond that which I have already indicated to the

committee. In war the unexpected often happens, and out own arrangements must be subordinated to the needs of the Empire as a whole.

I should like also to read for the information of the committee a memorandum which goes into the whole subject in somewhat more detail, and which has been prepared for the Minister of Militia by tne Chief of the General Staff. There are certain tables annexed to this report in the form of an Appendix which I would like the committee to excuse me from reading, and as to which I would also ask the consent of the committee that they may appear in Hansard, as I think they will be useful for the information of the House. I mentioned this suggestion to the right hon. leader of the Opposition at six o'clock, and he told me there would be no possible objection to it. However, I will read the main part of the memorandum, and all that I think will be of interest at the moment.

Canadian Expeditionary Force-April 8, 1915.

Memorandum setting forth the present Organization and Status of Canadian Exper ditionary Force.

The Canadian expeditionary force as at present organized is made up as follows:

I. The First Contingent-

1. The 1st Division, C.E.F.

2. Army troops and surplus units.

3. Dine of communication units.

II. The Second Contingent-

4. The 2nd Division, C.E.F.

5. Dine of communication units.

III. A force of Canadian Mounted Rifles.

IV. An Infantry Reserve.

V. Depots.

1. The First Division, C.E.F.

The first division (about 18,000 strong) is in the field. It includes :

Infantry: Twelve battalions (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th) grouped into three brigades.

Mounted Troops: A squadron of cavalry and a cyclist company.

Artillery: Forty-eight 18 pr. and four 60 pr. guns, with ammunition columns.

Engineers: Three field companies.

Signal Service: A divisional signal company.

Supply and Transport: A divisional train (four companies A.S.C.)

Medical Service: Three field ambulances.

2. Army Troops and Surplus Units.

The following units accompanied the 1st Division but are not included in it:

The Royal Canadian Dragoons and Dord Strathcona's Horse, " A " and " B " Batteries, Royal Canadian Horse Artillery, an automobile machine-gun brigade, and six battalions, including the Princess Patricia's Canadian Eight Infantry. , ,

The cavalry and horse artillery have been posted to a mounted brigade commanded by

Brigadier-General the Right Honourable J. E. B. Seely, D.S.O. The brigade Is still in England.

So also, it is believed, are the automobile machine-gun batteries.

Of the infantry, the 6th, Dth, 11th, 12th and 17th Battalions are in England. The 6th, composed exclusively of detachments from mounted corps, serves as a depot for the purpose of providing cavalry reinforcements; the 9th, 11th and 12th furnish reinforcements for the infantry; and the 17 th, to which no special rSle has been assigned, forms a general reserve.

The Princess Patricia's C. D. I., allotted to the 27th Division, is in France, where it has already distinguished itself.

3. Dine of Communication Units.

Dine of communication units are the administrative units which are required for duty on the railways, roads and navigable waterways between an army and its base or bases of operation.

The units shown in the following list embarked with the 1st Division, C.E.F., or were organized after it arrived in England:

Headquarters infantry base depot.

Headquarters general base depot.

Divisional ammunition park (mechanical transport). .

Casualty clearing station.

Stationary hospitals (2).

General ho:p'tals (2).

Advanced depots of medical stores (2).

Base depot of medical stores.

Base hospital (Clivedon).

Sanitary section.

Divisional supply column (mechanical transport).

Reserve park.

Railway supply detachment.

Field butcher}-.

Depot units of supply (4).

Advanced remount depot.

Mobile veterinary sections (2).

Veterinary sections (2).

Base depot of veterinary stores.

Advanced base ordnance depot.

Base ordnance depot.

Base army pay and record office (Dondon)

Pay and sub-record office (Shorncliffe).

Overseas base pay depot (France).

Base post office.

II. The Second Contingent.

4. The 2nd Division, C.E.F.

Stations (subject to alteration

Divisional Headquarters.. .. Not yet selected.

4th Canadian Infantry Brigade.

Brigade Headquarters .. .. Toronto.

18th Battalion Dondon.

19th and 20th Battalions.. ..Toronto. 21st Battalion Kingston.

5th Canadian Infantry Brigade.

Brigade Headquarters

22nd (French-Canadian) Battalion

24th Battalion

25 th Battalion [DOT][DOT]

26th Battalion

Montreal.

Amherst, N.S.

Montreal.

Halifax.

St. John, N.B.

6th Canadian Infantry Brigade.

Brigade Headquarters Winnipeg.

27th and 28th Battalions.. ..Winnipeg.

29th Battalion Vancouver.

31st Battalion Cults .try.

23C8

. Headquarters.

Divisional Mounted Troops. Subject to alteration.)

Squadron of Mounted Rifles.. London,

Cyclists Toronto (with om

platoon at Halifax. )

Divisional Artillery.

Headquarters Halifax.

4th Field Artillery Brigade .. Toronto, Guelph. 5th Field Artillery Brigade .. Winnipeg, Lethbridge.

7th Field Artillery Brigade .. Ottawa, Kingston

St. Jean, P.Q.,

Fredericton.

Heavy Artillery Battery and

Ammunition Column .. .. Halifax.

Divisional Ammunition Colu'n. Halifax, Toronto,

Winnipeg, Mont-treal.

Divisional Engineers,

Headquarters Ottawa.

4th, 5th and 6th Field Companies Ottawa.

Signal Service.

Divisional Signal Company.. Ottawa.

Supply and Transport.

Divisional Train (Headquarters and 4 companies A.S.C.) St. John, N.B.

Medical Service.

No. IV Field Ambulance.. .. Winnipeg.

No. V. Field Ambulance.. ..Toronto.

No. VI Field Ambulance.. ..Montreal.

Note.-There are being mobilized two armoured motor machine-gun units, one at Toronto and the other at Montreal. But whether or not they are to be associated with the 2nd Division, C.E.F., has yet to be determined.

5. Line of Communication Units.

The following line of communication units (possibly with others) will form part of the 2nd Contingent:

Divisional Ammunition Park (mechanical transport).

Casualty Clearing Station.

Stationary Hospitals:

No. 3 (London, Ont.).

No. 4 (French-Canadian).

No. 5 (Queen's University).

General Hospitals:

No. 3 (McGill University).

No. 4 (Toronto University).

Divisional Supply Column (mechanical transport).

Reserve Park.

Railway Supply Detachment.

Field Bakery.

Field Butchery.

Depots units of supply (2).

III. Canadian Mounted Rifles.

When the Army Council decided on the form which assistance from Canada should take, disappointment was felt, especially in the West, at the exclusion of cavalry and mounted rifles.

So long as trench fighting continued, mounted troops were not required on the European continent, in the western threatre of operations. But they were required in Egypt, which was threatened with invasion; and it was not unreasonable to suppose that before long the

tactical situation in Belgium and France would undergo a change. Therefore it was decided to proceed with the organization of a body of mounted rifles; and thirteen regiments, as detailed below, are being mobilized:

Station.

1st C.M.R. Brigade. (Subject to altera. tion.)

Brigade Headquarters.... Winnipeg.

1st Regiment Brandon.

2nd Regiment Victoria.

3rd Regiment Medicine Hat and

Edmonton

2nd C. M. R. Brigade.

Brigade Headquarters. .. Sherbrooke.

4th Regiment Toronto.

5th Regiment Sherbrooke.

6th Regiment Amherst.

Unbrigaded Regiments.

7th Regiment* London.

Sth Regiment Ottawa.

9th Regiment Lloydminster.

10th Regiment Regina.

11th Regiment Vancouver.

12th Regiment Calgary.

13th Regiment Pincher Creek.

* Less one squadron sent to England as a reinforcement.

IV. Infantry Reserve.

In Canada, in addition to the twelve " first line" battalions included in the 2nd Division, C.E.F., there are twenty-four " reserve " battalions in various stages of development.

They are (or will be) distributed as follows, and up to the present they have not been brigaded: -

Headquarters.

Battalions. (Subject to alteration. )

33 rd London.34 th Guelph.35 th Toronto.36th Hamilton.

37th (Sudbury district)... Not yet selected.

38th Ottawa.

39th Belleville.

40th Amherst.

41st (French Canadian).. Quebec.

42nd Montreal.

43rd Winnipeg.

44th Winnipeg.

4Eth Brandon.

46 th Regina.

47th -. .. New Westminster.

48th Victoria.

49 th Edmonton.

50 th Calgary.

51st Edmonton.

52nd (Thunder Bay and

Rainy River districts) .. Port Arthur.

53rd Prince Albert.

54th (British Columbia,

Mainland) Not yet selected.

55th (New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island) .. Not yet selected.

56th (Alberta) Not yet selected.

The foregoing battalions will be utilized as circumstances require; in Canada for draftgiving purposes, or in England as training depots, or as complete units at the seat of war.

V. Depots.

In England, as previously stated, three infantry depots and a cavalry depot have already

been provided for the 1st contingent; the 23rd, 30th and 32nd Battalions have lately been sent over to serve as depots for the infantry of the 2nd Division; depots have also been formed for artillery, engineers, army service corps, etc.; and in Canada there are recruiting and training establishments for each of the units which the permanent force contributed to the 1st contingent and to the garrison of Bermuda.

An analysis of the numbers of the various forces, supplied by the Adjutant General, is hereto appended as Appendix "A".

Appendix " A."

Recapitulation.

Canadian overseas Officers. Other Ranks. Total.forces

Units recruited and organized for overseas service but not mo- 3,698 82,055 85,753bilized

Units of the active militia on active ser- 90 3,410 3,500vice in Canada.. . . Permanent force in 551 9,226 9,777Canada 147 2,283 2,430Total 4,486 96,974 101,460

Grand total, 101,460 all ranks.

Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Forces. Recapitulation.

Other

Officers, ranks. Total.

Divisional Headquarters. 10 67 77

Cavalry and Mounted Rifles-

1st Contingent 69 1,255 1,324Reinforcements 6 151 1572nd Contingent 6 167 1733rd Contingent 360 7,051 7,411Total 441 8,624 9,065Artillery- 1st Contingent 133 3,279 3,412Reinforcements 25 792 8172nd Contingent 98 2,873 2,971Total 256 6,944 7,200Machine Guns- 1st Contingent 9 128 1372nd Contingent 29 308 337Total 38 436 474Engineers- 1st Contingent 39 708 ' 747Reinforcements 50 502nd Contingent 21 706 727Training Depot 4 120 124Total 64 1.5S4 1,648Signal Service- 1st Contingent 8 192 2002nd Contingent 6 220 226Telegraph Operators . . 80 80Total 14 492 506

Other

Officers. Ranks. Total.

Infantry-

1st Contingent 825 20,000 20,825Reinforcements 108 3,291 3,3992nd Contingent 447 13,094 13,5413rd Contingent 588 18,775 19,363Royal Canadian Regi- ment, Bermuda.. .. 27 955 982Total 1,995 56,115 58,110Cyclists- 1st Contingent 5 88 932nd Contingent 10 211 221Total 15 299 314Supply and Transport- 1st Contingent 62 1,552 1,6142nd Contingent 51 1,707 1,758A.S.C. Training Depot. . 18 160 178Total 131 3,419 3,550Medical Services- - 1st Contingent 122 1,317 1,439Reinforcements 42 392 4342nd Contingent in 1,441 1,5521st Con. Base Depot of Medical Stores . . . . 1 8 9Advance Depot 1 5 62nd Con. Base Depot of Medical Stores . . .. 1 8 9Total 278 3,171 3,449Nursing Sisters- 1st Contingent 184 - 1842nd Contingent 238 - 238Total 422 - 422Remount- 1st Contingent 10 89 99Reinforcements 2 75 77Total 12 164 176Veterinary- Mobile Veterinary Sec- tions 2 26 28Veterinary Sections. . .. 5 221 226Base Depot Veterinary Stores 1 5 6Total 8 252 260Ordnance- - Canadian O r d na n c e Corps 1 14 15Postal Service- 1st Contingent 2 14 16Postal Corps Depot, En- gland 1 5 5Base Post Office, Bou- logne 10 102nd Contingent 15 15Total. 3 44 47Railway Construction Corps- 2nd Contingent 12 492 504

Pay and Records

Base Army Pay and

Record Office, Lon-

don. England 4 2 5

Pay and Sub Record

Office Shorncliffe, En-

gland 2 2 4Overseas Base Pay Depot. 2 1 1 3Total 8 5 13

Grand total, 85,753 all ranks.

Troops on Active Service in Canada.

Recapitulation.

Other

Officers. Ranks. Total.

1st Divisional Area 4 182 1862nd " . S3 1,749 1,8323rd " . 37 632 6694th " . 28 616 6445th " . 25 499 5246th " . 208 2,709 2,917Military District No. 10. . 31 458 489" " No. 11. . 134 2,342 2,476" " No. 13. . 1 39 40Total .. .. 551 9,226 9,777

Grand total, 9,777 all ranks.

Strength of the Permanent Force in Canada for the half month ending 31st March, 1915.

Unit and Headquarters. m t-

Q sj ci oo O K HRoyal Canadian Dragoons- Regimental Dept., Toronto . 9 113 122Lord Strathcona's Horse (R.C.) - Regimental Dept., Winnipeg.. Royal Canadian Horse Artillery- 4 121 125R.S.A. Reg. Headquarters and Dist. Est't, Kingston 3 41 44Supernumeraries, Kingston . . 1 3 4"C" Battery 2 163 165Total 6 207 213Royal Canadian Garrison Artillery- Staff, Halifax 4 54 58Supernumeraries, Halifax.. .. 1 1Nos. 1 and 2 Companies, Hali- fax 10 256 266Staff, Quebec 5 40 45Supernumeraries, Quebec .. .. 3 3Nos. 3 and 4 Co.'s, Quebec .. 4 94 98Staff, Esquimau i 19 20No. 5 Coy, Esquimau 2 59 61Total 26 526 552Royal Canadian Engineers- Regimental Staff, Ottawa. .. 19 2 21Supernumerary Staff. Ottawa. 55 551st Fortress Co'y, Ottawa . . 129 1292nd Field Co'y, Ottawa.. .. 59 593rd Fortress Co'y, Ottawa . . 18 18Supernumeraries, Ottawa.. .. 20 '20Total 19 283 302Royal Canadian Regiment- Regimental Depot, Halifax . . 6 191 197No. 6 Station, Halifax 1 95 96Instr'l Cadre, Halifax 3 55 58Supernumeraries, Halifax .. .. 15 15Total 10 356 366C.P.A.S.C., Ottawa 16 156 172P.A.M.C. Ottawa 15 67 82CP.A.V.C., Ottawa 4 4 8C.O.C., Ottawa 26 296 322C.A.P.C., Ottawa 8 41 49

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Unit and Headquarters. o 6 o o * a 5 oS TotalC.M.S.C., Ottawa 75 79S.O.C., Ottawa 17 17School of Musketry, Ottawa. . 13 13School of Signalling, Ottawa . 8 8Total 677 750Grand total . 147 2283 2340

I venture to hope that the hon. members of the committee will not think that I have trespassed unduly upon their time or upon the time of the House in placing this information before them. vVe have been some months engaged in this war for the cause of liberty and democracy, in which the people of this Dominion in common with ail the citizens of the Empire take so deep and absorbing an interest, 'ine vast work which has to be carried on for the training organization and equipment of even one division so that it can effectively take the front can be better appreciated by those who have had something to uo with it than by those who have had no such experience. But when one C' mes to the organization of a force which at the present time comprises more than 100,000 men operating at the front or in training or upon duty in Canada, I venture to think that the House and the country will realize that a work of very considerable magnitude and importance has been performed in Canada during the past eight months.

Let me conclude by expressing, as I have on many occasions in the past expressed, the very deep appreciation which I am sure is shared by all my fellow citizens, of the magnificent response which has been given in this country from the Atlantic to the Pacific to the call to arms. No one of us doubted that when the need came the people of Canada would be ready to respond to the call but we rejoice that in every province and, indeed, in every community in Canada the response has been so warm, so loyal, so splendidly patriotic that every one of us feels to-day more proud than ever he did before of this great Dominion.

Topic:   THE CANADIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCES.
Subtopic:   PRESENT MOBILIZATION AND ORGANIZATION.
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April 10, 1915