August 4, 1917

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Robert Rogers (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROGERS:

It is used for the purpose of destroying old bills that have been withdrawn from circulation.

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Robert Rogers (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROGERS:

The Finance Department

wanted this plant, as it is the modern, way

of destroying old bills. The bills are ground into pulp, and the pulp is sold,

' Saskatchewan-Sutherland - Water supply for Forest Nursery Station, $8,000.

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CON

Robert Rogers (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROGERS:

Yes. This vote of $8,000 is required for laying a six-inch water service pipe from the town system at Sutherland to the Nursery Station. The charge to the department for consumption would be by meter at 11 cents per 100 cubic feet, as follows: Estimated cost of laying water

service pipe inclusive of materials and labour, $6,784.87; contingencies and superintendence, say, $1,215.13; total, $8,000. Approximate distances: From town's main to boundary of Forest Nursery Station, 2,950 feet; from boundary of Forestry Station to pressure tanks, 3,110 feet; total, 6,060 feet. The water supply for the Saskatoon Nursery Station is asked for by the Department of the Interior, April 28, 1915, and August 30, 1916, ,and recommended by Mr. N. M. Rose, Chief of Tree Planting Division.

Flags for Dominion public buildings, $5,000.

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George William Kyte

Liberal

Mr. KYTE:

I am very pleased to see this vote. While I am not much of a flag-waver myself, I have always thought, and am quite sure, that a more judicious supply of bunting on the public buildings of this country would meet with the approval of the great majority, if not all of the people. Whenever I visit the United States I am always struck with the great contrast between that country and our own, and the great frequency with which one sees the United States flag flying. This has been particularly noticeable since the United States have joined the Allies in this war. There is now even a greater display of flags than ever before. The occasion for flying the Union Jack in this country is quite as great as that for flying the Stars and Stripes in the United States. I am very much pleased to think that in future the contrast between this country and the United States will not be as noticeable as it has been in the past.

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Robert Rogers (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROGERS:

We share the idea of flying the flag from every public building in Canada every day in the year. This amount is in the estimates in order that we may have an additional supply, because, by reason of the fact that we adopted that

course some time ago, it is necessary that

we should have more flags. I am glad my

hon. friend approves of our action in flying

the flags everywhere.

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Daniel Duncan McKenzie

Liberal

Mr. McKENZIE:

In contradistinction to my hon. friend from Richmond, we are such flag-fliers in my town that the flag we have on our public building is pretty well worn out. I hope the deputy minister has made some report in regard to the matter. We had a very good flag, but it has been flying every day. The minister will understand that particularly in winter when a flag is left out and the Tain falls upon it and freezes, and this is followed by a heavy wind, the flag is destroyed very quickly. I was sorry to see that for some months past the flag on our post office has been much dilapidated and worn out. It should 'be replaced by a new one.

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Robert Rogers (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROGERS:

Of course, it is the duty of the caretaker to bring the matter of this kind to our attention. We will take it up, and see that a new flag is supplied.

Dominion public buildings, generally, $30,000.

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Emmanuel Berchmans Devlin

Liberal

Mr. DEVLIN:

Before the items are passed I would like to ask the minister if any part of the war profits tax goes to pay for those -buildings, improvements, and so on.

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Robert Rogers (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROGERS:

All the taxes go into the consolidated revenues fund, and we get our money fro-m that fund.

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Emmanuel Berchmans Devlin

Liberal

Mr. DEVLIN:

Then, what we understand as war taxes are not devoted exclusively towards the carrying on of the war and the winning of the war?

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Emmanuel Berchmans Devlin

Liberal

Mr. DEVLIN:

Is it the intention of the Government to set aside the tax directly levied for war purposes towards carrying on the war? Take the income tax, for instance, which we are about to collect- will that income tax also go >to pay for the repairs to public buildings, repairs to wharves, the building of post offices, etc., or will it be devoted entirely to war purposes?

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Robert Rogers (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROGERS:

I am not quite clear as to the form adopted by the Finance Department in regard to the manner in which they earmark the income tax or any other 26.1

particular tax in the payment of the moneys necessary for works, or necessary for the war. If my hon. friend will'renew his question when the Finance Minister is here, no doubt he will be very glad to explain.

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Emmanuel Berchmans Devlin

Liberal

Mr. DEVLIN:

I do not want to quibble over this item, but I would like to place myself on record as being one of those who would like to see all items relating to the w.ar tax, whether by way of stamp tax, income tax or otherwise, devoted entirely to the purpose of carrying on the war. According to the minister's statement a large portion of that money might be devoted to the construction of buildings, which might not be absolutely necessary and might not contribute in any way towards the winning of the war. Then, again, it might be devoted to other general purposes which have nothing to do with the winning of the war. If the people of Canada are to be taxed, and believe they are being taxed for the purpose of winning the war, I would like to say, as emphatically as I can, that every cent of that tax should be set aside for war purposes exclusively.

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William Thomas White (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir THOMAS WHITE:

There is no advantage by earmarking special funds. My hon. friend is no doubt aware that from the ordinary revenues of the Dominion, that is to say, the revenues derived from customs duties, excise duties, and other miscellaneous sources, we have more than sufficient to pay the ordinary expenditure of the Dominion including all the ordinary expenditure upon public works and all the capital expenditure of the Dominion as well, and we have in addition a surplus devoted to the payment of capital on our war expenditures, so that my hon. friend need not be anxious as far as the special taxation is concerned, because it and more is devoted to the purposes of the war.

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Charles Marcil

Liberal

Mr. MARCIL:

Will the minister tell us if it will be possible to find out what has been collected since the declaration of war, under the special taxes imposed in the post office, in the inland revenue, in the customs, and generally in the so-called war taxation?

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August 4, 1917