April 5, 1921

UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Prime Minister):

In answer to the hon. member for Russell (Mr. Murphy), who inquired yesterday whether the Government intended to defray the expenses of the delegates who will attend the Building Trades' Conference, I am informed by the hon. the Minister of Labour that it is the intention to make the same allowances as were made to the delegates to the Industrial Conference of 1919.

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GRAND TRUNK RAILWAY-ALLEGED DEFAULT OF INTEREST


On the Orders of the Day:


UNION

Arthur Meighen (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Unionist

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Prime Minister):

I desire to refer to an inquiry made yesterday by the hon. member for Cape Breton North and Victoria (Mr. McKenzie) with regard to the reported default of the Grand Trunk Railway on certain securities interest on which fell due April 1.

The House will no doubt remember that the Act embodying an agreement which passed this Parliament calling for an arbritation tribunal to determine the value, if any, of the three preference and common stocks of the Grand Trunk Railway provided that the arbitration tribunal should have nine months from the date of the appointment of the arbitrators within which to secure evidence and make their award, such nine months being capable of extension by approval of the Governor in Council. The provisions of the agreement also called for the Grand Trunk Directors remaining in possession pending the result of the arbitration and the making of the award, a committee of management being established in the meantime with certain limited powers. Owing to the heavy demands made upon the Government for financing the road while the Grand Trunk thus remained in possession, owing as well to what we believed to be dilatory methods of preparing for, if not conducting, the arbitration, the Government felt that there should not be further financing except what we might be under legal obligation to pay or a further extension of time, involving as it probably would, still further

financing with the Grand Trunk in control, unless the time contemplated by the original agreement for the transfer of possession and control should be adhered to notwithstanding any extension.

An intimation of the Government's position was made to the Grand Trunk Railway a very considerable time ago. Up to the present, arrangements for that transfer have not been made. As a consequence there has not been further financing by the Government since the final intimation of our position was made. That may have something to do with the reported default on April 1. I have only to add that the Government has as yet no official intimation that the Grand Trunk did default, but inasmuch as a statement did come from the President that they would not be in a position to pay, it is not improbable that the report is correct.

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CASE OF SMALLPOX ON THE SCANDINAVIAN

UNION

James Alexander Calder (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister presiding over the Department of Health; President of the Privy Council)

Unionist

Hon. J. A. CALDER (Minister of Immigration and Colonization):

A question was asked yesterday by the hon. member for Assiniboia (Mr. Gould), concerning a case of smallpox that had broken out on a steamship arriving at the port of St. John a short time ago. I have received a statement from the department in connection with that inquiry which is as follows-

The original ease developed the fourth day out from Antwerp, March 19th. The patient was at once isolated ; so were two immediate contacts occupying the same room. Then everyone on the boa t was vaccinated. No other case developed on the voyage.

During the period of incubation there is no risk in the way of general transmission. In the present case the incubates would have developed only after landing.

Only a few Anglo-Saxon passengers shipped at Antwerp. These had their cabins on the upper deck (B), with those who embarked at Southampton later. The Continental Antwerp passengers occupied (C) deck below. We know for a fact that the upper deck passengers used a different dining room, parlour and living room from the Continental. The only common place of meeting was the upper after deck from the promenade, which was very little used by passengers detained, thus reducing the possibilities of contamination to a minimum.

The Health Department considers that no unjustified risk was taken in making the separation that was made.

Mr. OSMONDE GRATTAN ESMONDE

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L LIB

Samuel William Jacobs

Laurier Liberal

Mr. S. W. JACOBS (George Etienne Cartier):

A Vancouver despatch this

morning announces that Mr. Osmonde Grattan Esmonde has been arrested on orders from the mayor of Vancouver for alleged sedition. The despatch goes on to

say that the case will probably be disposed of by the Immigration Board. Has the Minister of Immigration any information to offer the House regarding this matter?

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UNION

James Alexander Calder (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister presiding over the Department of Health; President of the Privy Council)

Unionist

Hon. J. A. CALDER (Minister of Immigration and Colonization) :

I have no

information whatever; I was not aware of the fact that Mr. Esmonde had been in Vancouver.

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L LIB
UNION

James Alexander Calder (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister presiding over the Department of Health; President of the Privy Council)

Unionist

Mr. CALDER:

I will, yes.

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THE CANADA WEST INDIES TRADE AGREEMENT, 1920


On motion of Right Hon. Sir George Foster, (Minister of Trade and Commerce) the House went into Committee to consider the following proposed resolution, Mr. Boivin in the Chair: Resolved, (1) That it is expedient to approve the agreement dated the eighteenth day of June, 1920, between the Government of the Dominion of Canada and the Governments of certain of His Majesty's colonies in the West Indies, which agreement is termed ''The Canada West Indies Trade Agreement, 1920"; (2) That the provisions in the said agreement relating to the customs duties upon goods, the produce or manufacture of any of the colonies, the government of which is a party to the said agreement, be sanctioned and declared to have the force of law in Canada; (3) That the Governor in Council shall have power to prescribe, by proclamation published in the Canada Gazette, the day upon which the preferential treatment of the said goods provided for in the said agreement shall be brought into force under the terms of the agreement wi-th respect to each of the said colonies, the extent of such preference within the limits prescribed by the said agreement where the exact amount thereof is not specified in the said agreement, and the day upon which the preferential treatment of the said goods of any of the said colonies is terminated under the said agreement; (4) That the Customs Tariff, 1907, and the amendments thereto be amended in accordance with the provisions of the said agreement; and (5) That the Act to be based upon these resolutions shall come into force on a day to be fixed by proclamation of the Governor in Council published in the Canada Gazette.


UNI L

William Stevens Fielding

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. FIELDING:

Is this agreement to

be found in the Votes and Proceedings?

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CON

George Green Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE FOSTER:

It was laid

on the Table some time ago. I will also have placed in the boxes of hon. members copies of the report of the proceedings of the conference, of which this agreement is the result. The resolution pretty well explains itself, and I would rather take the discussion of the subject on moving the second reading of the Bill. I should like to get the matter advanced to that stage, but

if there are any questions which hon. members desire to ask, I shall be glad to answer them.

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UNI L

William Stevens Fielding

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. FIELDING:

Does the right hon.

gentleman propose to introduce the Bill immediately?

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CON
UNI L

William Stevens Fielding

Unionist (Liberal)

Mr. FIELDING:

And deal with the

matter in Committee at a later stage?

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CON
UNI L
L LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Laurier Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX:

Has my hon. friend

received any petition from the tobacco growers in connection with this Treaty?

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April 5, 1921