February 27, 1923

LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

In order to do that, I shall have to take the inpatients on pay and allowances for eveiy year. That is rather a long statement. I have no objection to giving it to my hon. friend, but I will take the tubercular inpatients only now:

1919 1,486

1920 1,096

1921 1,054

1922 982

Those are tubercular inpatients, receiving pay and allowances. The number of outpatients is a great deal smaller. They vary from year to year, from 1919 to 1922, from 57, to 11, 10 and 40. The tubercular outpatients on pay and allowances are rather on the increase.

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CON

John Armstrong MacKelvie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacKELVIE:

Could the minister say what proportion of that reduction was due to death and what proportion to other causes?

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

I have that information somewhere, but I do not believe I can lay my hand on it at the present time. Of course, a certain proportion would disappear through death, and a certain proportion also are discharged from the sanatoria as improved, but some of these are kept under the observation of 'the department as outpatients, some are let out with full pensions, and some, of course, are considered as cured and then might, in the judgment of the pension board, receive a pension commensurate with what they think the disability amounts to.

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PRO

Charles Wallace Stewart

Progressive

Mr. STEWART (Humboldt):

Without

troubling the minister to read the long list, I should like to know if mental cases are decreasing otherwise than through death; in other words, if the mental treatment is proving successful.

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

Unhappily the number is on the increase. These figures I give are up to the last of the year:

Inpatients not on pay and

Inpatients Outpatients allowances

1919 . 664 36 231920 ,. 639 16 2071921 .. 618 5 2581922 .. 680 44 289

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Charles Wallace Stewart

Progressive

Mr. STEWART (Humboldt):

Could the minister tell us the names of the institutions where mental cases are being treated, and the number under treatment?

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Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

The department has two important mental institutions, one at Westminster hospital, near London, and the other at St. Anne de Bellevue, near Montreal. The number of inpatients, mental cases in each of those hospitals is about 450.

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PRO

Charles Wallace Stewart

Progressive

Mr. STEWART (Humboldt):

Are there any cases in the provincial institutions?

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

Yes, a number of patients are also distributed in the different provinces. I suppose I should be in a position to give my hon. friend all the information he seeks in this regard. We have, as he knows, mental institutions throughout the country. There are in unit A, which is Montreal unit, two mental institutions, one called St. Jean de Dieu, and the other the Protestant General, both in Montreal. We have twelve patients in those institutions. In the Maritime provinces, we have at Falconwood three mental cases, and at Dartmouth, three. At St. John Asylum, St. John, we have none. In the Ottawa unit, we have, at Brockville, two, and at King-

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ston-Rockwood-fourteen. In D unit, which is Toronto, we have at Toronto, seven; at Hamilton, none; at MimiQo, four, and at Whitby, ten. In unit F, which is Guelph, we have no patients. In the Winnipeg unit, we have at Selkirk, 65 mental cases. In H unit, which is Regina, we have at Battleford, 49. In Calgary unit, we have at Ponoka, sixteen, and at Red Deer, 35. In British Columbia, we have at New Westminster, fourteen, and at Vancouver 66. Those are mental patients in institutions other than departmental institutions, of which we have two.

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CON

William Alves Boys (Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BOYS:

The minister gave us a table showing that in 1919, the number of patients ' was something over 8,000, and that number has gradually been reduced, until at the end of 1922, it is down to 4,307 patients. I notice there is a reduction this year of $500,000 in this item as compared with last year, a very substantial reduction. Is that due wholly to the reduced number of patients? If not, to what other cause may the reduction be attributed?

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Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

It is mainly due to the reduction in the number of patients, the general cost of keeping the patients in hospital.

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CON

William Alves Boys (Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BOYS:

I am not referring to some trivial amount. Is that really the cause of the reduction beyond some trivial sums?

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

Yes.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

What amount was spent last year under this head?

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John Arthur Clark

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARK:

Would the minister at the same time give us the figures for the preceding year?

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

On 31st December last, we had spent $2,746,525.

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Archibald M. Carmichael

Progressive

Mr. CARMICHAEL:

Has the department any hospitals for taking care of tubercular patients, other than those regularly provided in the different provinces? I am thinking more particularly of Saskatchewan, which is at present overcrowded with tubercular patients.

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

The department has four different sanatoria; one in Quebec, which they cstfl the Laurentian sanatorium at Ste. Agathe; One in the Maritime provinces, called the Jordan Memorial at River Glade; one at Kingston, called the Mowat sanatorium, and one in Saskatchewan, called the Qu'Appelle sanatorium.

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Archibald M. Carmichael

Progressive

Mr. CARMICHAEL:

How many patients are in the provincial sanatorium at Qu'Appelle under departmental supervision, and what is the rate paid for their care?

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

In Saskatchewan we have sixty-seven patients in the Fort Qu'Appelle sanatorium, and the cost is $3.30 per day per patient.

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February 27, 1923