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May 18, 1923

CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Produce them now; the statement is utterly untrue.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

Utterly?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Yes, utterly.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

I am surprised-

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

So am I.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

-that the leader of the Opposition should make that statement. The returns brought down by the government of which he was a member will prove the truth of the statement. I made the statement a few moments ago that when the war came the floodgates were opened, but I have already stated that under these conditions very high prices would be paid for everything the government needed to purchase at that time to prosecute the war. What I complain of however, and the leader of the Opposition knows it, is that much of this expenditure was due to premeditated arrangement whereby enormous prices would be paid, much higher than were necessary for the goods that were required. I do not want to go into this matter at this late hour of the evening, after some years have passed since these events, but my hon. friend knows that what I have said is true. He knows that in many instances no effort whatever was made by the government of which he was a member, at all events by the ministers of the Crown in some of the departments, to curtail some of these expenditures or to see that anything like value was obtained for the money expended. I am quite conservative when I say that for every dollar expended in the war at least 50 cents was either wasted or stolen, and this could have been prevented. The result is that the public debt to-day might have been a billion less than it is and taxation nearly cut in two. I do not want my hon. friends opposite to assume therefore that there is any political party in this country responsible for the enormous debt

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which is now resting upon us, and for the heavy taxation which we have to meet, except the official opposition of to-day.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Did that enormous

waste apply during the years the hon. gentleman's friends were associated with us?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

My friends?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Yes.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

There were none of my friends associated with you.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Are there certain hon. gentlemen on the opposite side who are not the hon. gentleman's friends?

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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

The circumstances to

which I have referred existed in the early days of the war before my so-called friends were associated with the hon. gentleman.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That is pretty hard on the Minister of Finance.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

No, the Minister of Finance was a defeated candidate. He was not in parliament at the time to which I refer, so that he could not have been associated with it.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Perhaps the hon. gentleman will get down a little finer still, then. Would he tell us what the articles were and where it was so shown?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

Who?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Well, I do not know who-whoever he likes.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

What question did the

right hon. gentleman ask me?

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I thought perhaps the hon. gentleman might be specific say, as to a dollar or a dollar and a half.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
Subtopic:   CONTINUATION OF DEBATE ON THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE
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LIB

James Joseph Hughes

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HUGHES:

Parliament is not a kindergarten. If the right hon. gentleman wishes to attend a school of that kind there are opportunities, I believe, in Ottawa. He should not descend to these little quibblings.

Topic:   THE BUDGET
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May 18, 1923