May 15, 1924

CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS

BILLS TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSTRUCTION OF BRANCH LINES


Mr. FRANK CAHILL (Pontiac) presented the sixth report of the select standing committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines, as follows: Your committee have considered Bill No. 38, an act respecting the Esquimalt and Nanaimo Railway Company, and have agreed to report the same without amendment. . Your committee have considered the following bills and have agreed to report them with amendments, viz., Bill No. 30, an act respecting the construction of a Canadian National Railway line between Rousseau and Laurent, in the province of Quebec. Bill No. 46, an act respecting the construction of a Canadian National Railway line from Lloydminster, in the province of Saskatchewan, northwesterly 45 miles. In compliance with the order of May 12, your committee have further considered Bill No. 40, an act respecting the construction of a Canadian National Railway line to Mile 41 of the Melfort branch near Nipawin in the province of Saskatchewan, and have agreed to report the same with further amendments. With regard to the last mentioned bill, your committee beg to recommend that the title be changed to read as follows: "An act respecting the construction of a Canadian National Railway line either to Mile 41 near Nipawin or in a northeasterly direction to a point in Township 48, Range 13, west of the second meridian, in the province of Saskatchewan." All of which is respectfully submitted.


BANKING AND COMMERCE


COMMITTEE ,


LEAVE TO SIT WHILE HOUSE IN SESSION


Mr. THOMAS VIEN (Lotbiniere) presented the fifth report of the select standing committee on Banking and Commerce, as follows: Your committee recommend that leave be granted them to sit while the House is in session. All of which is respectfully submitted. Mr. VIEN moved that the report be received and concurred in.


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, if these

motfons are to pass as they have been passing, granting large committees one after the other power to sit while the House is in session, the House itself will become a mere formality. It would seem to me it would have been better had the committees commenced work sooner, and not now be usurping the time of parliament. I do not like consenting to so many committees sitting while the House is in session.

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Thomas Vien

Liberal

Mr. VIEN:

I may say that this motion

met with the same objections in the Banking and Commerce committee. It is not t]je intention, so far as I can judge, to sit while the House is in session, except in exceptional cases. The committee, under the powers that were granted to it, have summoned witnesses from Washington and New York, the presidents of banks and experts on financial matters, and they have felt that it would be quite unfair for these gentlemen, who are very busy, to sit only from eleven to one o'clock and then keep them waiting over until the committee sits the next day. Therefore, we have asked the privilege to sit while the House is in session, but I think it is the general consensus of opinion in the committee not to abuse that privilege but to exercise it only out of regard for these gentlemen who are being summoned to appear as witnesses, and who are coming here, not compulsorily, but quite voluntarily.

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LIB

Lewis Herbert Martell

Liberal

Mr. L. H. MARTELL (Hants):

Mr. Speaker, I should also like to call your at-

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United Church of Canada-Petitions

tention to this fact, which I think is very pertinent, that often many committees are called to meet at the same hour and hon. members in many cases are members of several committee. I think that is most unfair, and the matter should be looked into with a view to finding a time for the committees to meet so that hon. members can attend the various committees of which they are members, instead of having three or four committees meeting at the same time, which makes it impossible for the members to attend some of the committees.

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LIB

Thomas Vien

Liberal

Mr. VIEN:

Mr. Speaker, I was going on

to state when I was interrupted by my hon. friend, that some of the witnesses have expressed in their telegrams a desire to be able to return home the very same day. I might mention, for instance, Mr. Skelton Williams, who was formerly Comptroller of the Currency in the United States, and now of Richmond, Virginia. He was very willing to come voluntarily to give evidence before the committee, but at the same time he expressed a desire to be able to return home on the same day if possible.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I am not a member of the committee, Mr. Speaker, but I must be permitted to doubt the wisdom of the initial step of the committee in having witnesses come from the ends of the earth to advise us on banking matters. Still, it has been done, and as apparently it is only the intention to utilize the time of the House to hear these witnesses I withdraw my objection

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LIB

Motion agreed to.


UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA


Petitions were presented from certain members of the following congregations, severally praying that the proposed legislation incorporating the United Church of Canada be not enacted:- Almerite Presbyterian Church,-Mr. Duff. Presbyterian Church, Little Narrows; Presbyterian Church of Middle River and other places; Kennetcook Cor.; Presbyterian Church of Shubenacadie; Presbyterian Church of Gore and Kennetcook; Presbyterian Church of Elmsdale and Nine Mile River, all of Nova Scotia,-Mr. Martell. Petitions were presented from certain members of the following congregations and bodies severally praying that the bill now before the House to incorporate the United Church of Canada be passed during the present session:- Methodist Church, Allison, Ont.; Grace Methodist Church, Brampton, Ont.; Union Church, Foam Lake, Sask.; St. James Methodist Church, Peterboro, Ont.; Westminster Presbyterian Church, Saskatoon, Sask.; Methodist Church, Parry Sound, Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Cape John and Caribou, N.S.; Salem Church, Tupperville; Yonge Street Methodist Church, Toronto,-Mr. Hubbs. Presbyterian Church, Rockwood, Ont.; Union Churches, Dinton and Gladys; Methodist Church, Mount Pleasant, Fairmont and Cavan, Ontario; Rivers Union Church, Pettapiece, Man.; Methodist Church, Kingston Mills, Ont.; Methodist Church, Selby; Union Church, Rossland, B.C.; Methodist Church, Renfrew, Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Grand Bend; Gray Church, Ricetown, Sask.; Methodist Church, Leamington; Methodist Churches, Clandeboye and Lucan, Ont.; Burns Presbyterian Church, Ashbum, Ont.; Union Church, Russell, Man.; First Congregational Church, Ottawa; Methodist Church, Bluevale, Ont.; Methodist Churches, Belgrave and Sunshine; Union Church, Macklim, Sask.; Methodist Churches, Bensfort, Baifeboro and Fraserville, Ont.-Mr. Halbert. Quebec Association of Ministers and Churches of the Congregational Churches, Cowansville, Que.; St. John's Methodist Church, Winnipeg; College Avenue Methodist Church, Woodstock, Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Granum; Union Church, Lethbridge, Alta.; Methodist Church, Waterford, Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Kagawong, Ont.; Methodist Church, Caledon East, Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Fergus, Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Coniston, Ont.; Methodist Church, Beachburg, Ont.; Gordon Methodist Church, Winnipeg, Man.; M. Hackney and 65 others, Zephyr, Ont.; Methodist Church, East Angus, Que.; Presbyterian and Union Church, Ellis-boro and Weldon, Sask.; Wesley Methodist Church, Selkirk, Man.; Methodist Church, Roblin, Ont.-Mr. Brown. Presbyterian Churches at Cyde, Pibroch and Westlock, Alta.; United Church, Edson, Alta.; Highland Park Presbyterian Church, Edmonton South, Alta.; Methodist Church, Salmon Arm, B. C.; Union Church, Minitonas, Man.; Methodist Church, Oak Bay, N.B.; United Church, Gallivan and Rockhaven, Sask.; United Church, Topley and Foresdale, B.C.; Union Church, Smithers, B.C.; Union Church, Peachland, B.C.; Presbyterian Church, Pelly and Norquay, Sask.; Presbyterian Church, Bellmuir; Methodist Church, Dauphin, Man.; Union Church, Lillooet, B.C.; Presbyterian Church, Success, Sask.; Questions United Churoh, Estevan, Sask.; Methodist Church , Cloverdale, BjC. ; Hartney Hall Union Church-Mr. Charters. Dunleath Congregation, Sask.; Presbyterian Church, Norland and Dongola; Congregational Church, Kingsport, N.S.,; Methodist Church, Macleod, Alta.; Hale Street Methodist Church, London, Ont.; Wesley Methodist Church, Galt, Ont.; Bell Street Methodist Church, Ottawa; Presbyterian Church, Murray Harbour, P.E.I.; Methodist Churches, Little Briton and Valentia, Ont.; of Wm. P. Wright and 14 others of the city of Toronto; Cameron, Trinity Methodist Church; Methodist Church, Stoney Creek, Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Windsor Junction; Presbyterian Church, Flesherton, Ont.; Methodist Churches, Ebenezer and Bradford; Union Church, Foxwarren, Man.; Methodist Church, Pleasant Forks; Methodist Churches Portreeve and Lancer, Sask.; (Presbyterian) Union Churches, Magrath and Spring Coulee, Alta.; Methodist Church, 'Maple Creek; Sask.; Union Church, Elstow, Sask.; United Church, Kelowna, B.C.; Union Church, Days-land, Leith and Rosalind, Alta.; Union Church, Elk Point, Alta.; St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churcsh, Langley Fort, B.C.; Union Church, Monitor, Alta.; St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, Boissevain, Man.; United Church, Okotoks, Alta.; Congregational Church, Eatonia, Sask.; United Church, Grandview; Methodist Church Mono Mills, Ont.; Methodist Church, Moulinette, Ont.; United Church, Orrville, Ont.; Methodist Churches, Hawthorne, Bowesville and Leitrim; Ont.; Presbyterian Church, Joliette, Que.; and of W. A. Hanna and 25 others of the Methodist Church at Port Carling, Ont. -Mr. Stewart (Leeds). On the petitions being presented:


LIB

Andrew Ross McMaster

Liberal

Mr. A. R. McMASTER (Brome):

Mr

Speaker, I rise to a point of order, whether it would not be possible to have these numerous petitions for and against Church Union placed on the Table of the House, to have them appear in Hansard the next day, and thus save some very valuable time.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear.

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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The members are at

liberty to do exactly what the hon. gentleman has just suggested, but they also have the privilege, if they so desire, of reading the petitions from their seats. Of course, it would save much valuable time if the petitions were simply handed into the Clerk of the House. They appear in the Votes and Proceedings the next day.

Mr. THOMAS SALES (Saltcoats) thereupon laid a petition upon the Table.

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May 15, 1924