June 4, 1924

LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

In the present instance

the motions were only called; they were not put. There is a little distinction. I do not want to be too casuistic, but I believe it is the right of the hon. gentleman to drop his motions as they have not been put.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The reason I have understood the rule differently is this: If this is the correct interpretation, Mr. Speaker, it is in the power of any hon. member to forestall another hon. member who is in earnest about a resolution by simply placing a resolution on the order paper and holding it till the session is well advanced, when there would be no opportunity to get any further-this applies more to the ordinary motions than to these-and then quietly, of his own will, and without the consent of the House, drop-

ping his resolution. I have understood the rule to be that the member is in the hands of the House once his motion goes on the order paper.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

I held that idea myself

until a few days ago, when it was dispelled. I have no objection myself, Mr. Speaker, to allowing these motions to stand until you give a ruling, but I think my hon. friend will find that the practice has been that these motions are the property of the member until they come before the House by way of moving them.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Here is the authority,

Bourinot, page 299:

If a member neglects or declines to proceed with a motion, the House cannot force him to do so, but he has a right to drop it or it may be dropped under rule 32. A member who has given notice of a series of resolutions may withdraw some of them and go on with the others.

It has always been the practice in my recollection that a member may insert a motion on the order paper, and then drop it. Still, I am bound to say that the situation exactly as has been described by the right hon. leader of the opposition has created some inconvenience, and this year one of the hon. members from British Columbia called on me and said that he had been forestalled that way, because members did not proceed with their motions, and he had a similar one himself on the order paper. He suggested that possibly the rules of the House might be. amended in order to prevent any such recurrence in the future. However, it is a. question for the House to decide.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

William F. Carroll

Liberal

Mr. CARROLL:

I would ask, if I may,

that the two resolutions stand.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The view held by May is the same as that held by Bourinot. On page 214 of May, twelfth edition, I find:

A notice cannot be withdrawn from the notice paper of the day or the current issue of the order book in the course of a sitting, but by an intimation to the clerks of the table it can be withdrawn from a future issue.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Do I understand that

the motions stand or are dropped?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Dropped.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

Hance James Logan

Liberal

Mr. LOGAN:

I understood the hon. member to ask that they should stand.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

William F. Carroll

Liberal

Mr. CARROLL:

I made that request, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The first one?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

William F. Carroll

Liberal

Mr. CARROLL:

Both.

Unopposed. Motions for Papers

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I understood that the

hon. member wanted them dropped. If I was wrong I must apologize. I will take the word of the hon. member, of course. These two motions stand.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-COAL
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PRODUCTION OF CARBON-BLACK

PRO

Donald MacBeth Kennedy

Progressive

Mr. KENNEDY (Edmonton):

For a copy of the agreement entered into between Canadian Petroleums, Limited, and the government, regarding the production of carbon-black and the leasing of oil-lands, and a copy of all correspondence and telegrams in connection therewith.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   PRODUCTION OF CARBON-BLACK
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HOPPE COAL LEASES

PRO

Donald MacBeth Kennedy

Progressive

Mr. KENNEDY (Edmonton):

For a copy of all letters, telegrams and other documents passing between J. A. Schryburt, or Schreibert, and the Prime Minister or other members of the government, relative to the Hoppe coal leases.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   HOPPE COAL LEASES
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TRUST COMPANIES ACT, 1914


Hon. J. A. ROBB (Acting Minister of Finance) moved that the House go into committee at the next sitting to consider the following proposed resolution: Resolved, That it is expedient to amend the Trust Companies Act, 1914, and to provide: 1. That the Superintendent of Insurance shall annually ascertain and certify the total amount of the expenditure incurred by the government for or in connection with the administration of the act during the last preceding fiscal year, and the total amount of income received during the last preceding calendar year by each company, and the findings of the superintendent shall be final and conclusive. 2. That thereupon the superintendent shall ascertain the ratio or percentage which the total expenditure so found and certified bears to the aggregate of the income aforesaid, and shall assess each of the companies an amount equivalent to that percentage of the total amount of the income received, and such assessment when certified by the superintendent shall be binding upon the said companies, and be final and conclusive. 3. That the amount so assessed against each company shall constitute a debt payable to His Majesty, and shall be payable upon demand of the superintendent, and may be recovered as a debt in any court of competent jurisdiction. He said: His Excellency the Governor General, having been made acquainted with the subject matter of this resolution, recommends it to the favourable consideration of the House. Motion agreed to.


LOAN COMPANIES ACT, 1914, AMENDMENT

June 4, 1924