Mr. G. H. BOIVIN (Shefford):

Mr. Speaker, I beg to present the third report of the select standing committee to supervise the Official Report of Debates:

Your committee have had under consideration the following matters referred to them by the House,

viz:

1. Whether Hansard should be a record of debates only containing such items of the proceedings of the House as may be necessary to make the report of the debates intelligible, or whether it should contain all of the proceedings of the House and of the committee of the Whole House as well as the record of debates.

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2. Whether it is desirable, in the interests of economy of time, labour and expense, that the report of the debates in Hansard should be limited to such speeches as may be delivered when Mr. Speaker is in the chair, with or without a brief report of proceedings in committee.

3. Whether it i3 desirable to make Hansard an official record of all the proceedings of the House of Commons, as well as a record of the debates.

Your committee recommend that beginning with the opening of the next session of parliament and until otherwise ordered by the House, the record of the debates in Committee of Supply, be continued as at present but that there be inserted at the end thereof or at the end of the entire report of each day's debates, a list of all the estimates approved by the Committee of Supply with or without debate.

Your committee agree that economy of time, labour and expense in the conduct of the proceedings of the House and the report of the debates in Hansard is most desirable but considering the late stage of the session, the very limited debate in the House concerning the matter and the divided opinion of the members of your committee concerning the ways and means to be adopted to attain the desired results, your committee recommend that as soon as possible after the opening of the next session of parliament and after the members of the House have had an opportunity of expressing their views upon the subject, a special committee of the House be appointed with power to consider whether or not it is possible and desirable in the interests of time, labour and expense, that the rules of the House of Commons be amended or that the report of the debates in Hansard be curtailed, and to report their opinion thereon to the House.

Your committee recommend that the Votes and Proceedings do remain the official record of all the proceedings of the House of Commons and that Hansard remain a record of debates only with such items of the proceedings of the House as may be necessary to make the report of the debates intelligible and with the addition of a list of estimates approved by the Committee of Supply with or without debate.

Your committee further recommend that beginning with the opening of the next session of parliament and until otherwise ordered by the House, an additional copy of the Orders of the Day be supplied to every member, said copy to be distributed daily when issued through the post office of the House of Commons.

Your committee further recommend that the clerk of the committee have power before the opening of every session of parliament and until it may be otherwise ordered by the House, to correct and revise the permanent list already made and approved by the Debates committee, and prepare the annual complimentary list containing the names and addresses submitted by the members of the House of Commons, for the mailing of the six copies of Hansard which they are entitled to have distributed, the whole subject to the approval of the Debates committee when said committee has been appointed by the House.

All of which is respectfully submitted.

Geo. H. Boivin,

Chairman.

If I have the unanimous consent of the House, I move that the third report of the select standing committee on Debates be now concurred in.

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

There are

some hon. gentlemen who desire to scrutinize the report before it is adopted.

Motion stands.

Mr. W. G. RAYMOND (Brantford):

I

beg to move:

That pursuant to the recommendation of the second and final report of the committee appointed to inquire into an old age pension system for Canada proceedings together with the evidence taken therein be printed as an appendix to the Journals of the House and that rule 74 be suspended in relation thereto.

Mr. IRVINE:

Do I understand that this

is a motion to concur in the report?

Mr. RAYMOND:

No; this is as regards

printing.

Mr. IRVINE:

I should like to have somebody make the motion to have the report concurred in. I do not know whether I am in order, but I should like to see the report brought before the House and concurred in. Can I move that as an amendment?

Mr. SPEAKER:

Notice must be given.

Mr. IRVINE:

I will give notice.

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KINO (Prime Minister):

I beg to move:

That on and after Saturday the 12th day of July instant, until the end of the present session, the House shall meet at eleven o'clock in the morning of each day except Sundays, and that in addition to 'the usual intermission at six o'clock, p.m., there shall be also an intermission every day from one to three o'clock, p.m., and that the various committees of the House be at liberty to sit during the sessions of the House, and that on Saturdays the procedure and order of business be the same as on Fridays.

Mr. BOYS:

Will the government not consider putting the motion into effect from Monday? Saturday is an important day of the year to many of us; we have celebrations to attend. Our plans are already made, and it does seem to me that the business could be expedited equally well if we started morning sittings on Monday.