Mr. PRICE:

I am answering a question

the hon. member asked.

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. member has

no right to interrupt except by leave of the hon. member who has the floor.

Mr. YOUNG (Weyburn):

As I was saying-

Mr. PRICE:

Mr. Speaker, perhaps with

the hon. gentleman's permission I may ask a question.

Mr. YOUNG (Weyburn):

Ask me a question if you want to.

Mr. PRICE:

I should just like to straighten my hon. friend out a little.

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I must remind

the hon. member that a question is not a statement. He must content himself with, putting a question.

Mr. YOUNG (Weyburn):

Well then, Mr. Speaker, the argument is this: that the industrialists of central Canada are asking the people of other parts of the country-including, mind you, the man in Alberta who would like to start some kind of industrial business of his own-to pay the freight on coal to bring it down here to furnish these competitors with cheap fuel in order to outbid him in the market. That is the argument. If that policy were put into effect it would retard industrial development in every part

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cf Canada except right here in the central districts. It would keep Nova Scotia, Alberta, and all the outlying portions of the country for ever paying tribute to the centre.

Mr. MACDOUGALL:

Will the hon. gentleman permit me to ask him a question? because I want to get the facts correctly. Is he, as a member of the Liberal party, putting himself on record as being opposed to bringing Alberta coal and Nova Scotia coal into the markets of central Canada? Will the hon. gentleman kindly answer that question?

Mr. YOUNG (Weyburn):

I am opposed

to any man asking another man to pay his freight for him.

Mr. PRICE:

With the permission of Mr. Speaker-

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I wish to extend

some protection to a new member, on whichever side of the House he sits. The hon. member must be allowed to deliver his address without interruption, unless there is justification for it.

Mr. YOUNG (Weyburn):

To find a

parallel to that case, Mr. Speaker, we will kave to go back to the old Book, with which hon. gentlemen opposite no doubt are familiar, where the story is told of the man who had a ewe lamb, only one, whilst his wealthy neighbour had a whole flock. But the wealthy neighbour coveting the ewe lamb of the poor man conceived the idea of putting the poor man out of the way and stealing his lamb. It is not exactly a parallel case, Mr. Speaker, because when King David stole Uriah's wife he was at least willing to take her home at his own expense.

The right hon. leader of the opposition in his speech the other night referred to the general election in Saskatchewan, but in that he did not speak by the book. I may say he is not well informed of what went on in our province. It is true that the promise to construct the Hudson Bay railway was a factor in winning the election for the Liberal party out there, but it was not a dominant factor. I will tell you the argument that turned the scale in Saskatchewan. This is what we told the people: we pointed out that the Progressive party had only seventy candidates in the field, and there was no possibility of their being called upon to form a government. We pointed out that the next government at Ottawa would be either Liberal or Conservative; that the Liberal party would probably lose some seats in the east, and unless we, the Liberals, gained enough seats in the west to offset our losses in the east

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we would have a Tory government. That is the argument that turned the trick. The people out there knew what a Conservative government would mean, and we did not let them forget it. We quoted the speeches of the right hon. leader of the opposition. We quoted that speech in which he said there was only one issue and that was the tariff. We quoted the speech in which he said that if he were returned to power he would raise the tariff fifty per cent.

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Would the hon. gentleman please tell me where he found that

speech?

Mr. YOUNG (Weyburn):

In the newspapers of the day.

Mr. MEIGHEN:

In what paper?

Oh, misquoted again!

Mr. YOUNG (Weyburn):

In all the newspapers of the country.

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I will tell the hon. gentleman he never found it in any newspaper. It is all in his imagination.

Order.