April 8, 1926

CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER:

Are all these plants in

Nova Scotia used chiefly for fish cold storage or are some of them used for agricultural purposes?

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William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

The one at North Sydney, for instance, is used for agricultural purposes and fish as well, but we have to take special precautions in connection with insulating the plant and dividing it off into rooms to ensure that no offensive odours from the fish contaminate other commodities that are stored there.

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Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

Of course the minister does not contend that the cold storage plant at North Sydney is in aid of agriculture. If he does, he had better revise his ideas regarding that part of the country. Is the cold storage proposition at Montreal assisted out of this vote?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

No.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

Is that done through the harbour commission?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Yes, entirely.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

Does the government or any department of the government obtain a report from the harbour commission as to the business done in its cold storage branch? Is the minister able to tell us whether that is a money making proposition or not?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I would imagine

there would be a report each year to the Department of Marine and Fisheries under which I understand it comes. Our officers are almost constantly employed in the plant grading butter and cheese; we are fairly familiar with the kind of service that is given and it is satisfactory.

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William Anderson Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLACK (Halifax):

Are butter and

cheese products of the sea, as the cold storage plant at Montreal appears to be under the Department of Marine and Fisheries?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I do not understand the point.

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CON

Ernest Frederick Armstrong

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ARMSTRONG (Lambton):

What

action, if any, has the minister taken to improve cold storage facilities in connection with fruit products going from Grimsby district to

Supply-Agriculture

the west and from western Ontario by boat to the west? I would also ask, what has been done in the direction of improving transportation on cars and boats taking our perishable products to the market on the other side of the Atlantic?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

The next vote is

exclusively for fruit and it would be better not to mix the two. With regard to Grimsby they have been extending cold storage facilities there from time to time under the assistance that we have been able 4 p.m. to give. The concern is a co-operative one with Colonel Roberts as president. They have also an artificial ice-manufacturing plant, through the medium of which they provide icing facilities for all shipments of fruit marketed there and sent out west in the beginning of the season. The plant is doing exceedingly good work. Just how it has been panning out financially of recent years I am not aware, but as in all new institutions the overhead was a little out of proportion to the turnover during the first year or two. I understand that in recent years a tremendous quantity of early fruits particularly and perishable fruits get not only cold storage at Grimsby, but pre-cooling and icing on both railways for the western trade.

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Ernest Frederick Armstrong

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ARMSTRONG (Lambton):

Will the minister be willing to assist the cold storage transportation of the products of western Ontario? I come from a district which ships enormous quantities of fruit by boat. What assistance, if any, would the minister be prepared to give in that direction?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

We have no provision for that. I often was surprised that the fruit men of the Niagara peninsula did not take more advantage of this provision for cold storage facilities. On more occasions than one I have had opportunities of talking to them and also to fruit men in the Kelowna valley. On my first visit to Kelowna I saw a number of exceedingly fine fruit packing plants, not one of which had a single cubic foot of cold storage space. I pointed out to them that they were missing a lot in not prolonging their marketing season through lack of pre-cooling or cold storage facilities. The same may be said with regard to the Niagara peninsula; outside of Grimsby nothing has been done by the fruit growers to provide such facilities. Probably it is a difficult thing to finance; at any rate, it has proved so in the past. The Grimsby plant is giving exceedingly good service.

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Ernest Frederick Armstrong

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ARMSTRONG (Lambton):

I am

asking more particularly with regard to transportation by boat, for instance, from Sarnia to Port Arthur and Fort William. Would that come under legislation such as the minister refers to?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

No, we have never had any call for it. I do not know whether there are any cold storage facilities on the boat my hon. friend refers to, but if the owners are undertaking to carry perishable commodities they would no doubt provide proper facilities.

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Ernest Frederick Armstrong

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ARMSTRONG (Lambton):

The minister has no doubt had requests with regard to the overseas carriage of perishable products. What improvements has he made in that direction during the last few years?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

The committee

will recall that the only attempt made was under the provisions of the Petersen contract, which would have provided 60,000 cubic feet on each boat. My hon. friend knows what happened to that.

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Ernest Frederick Armstrong

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ARMSTRONG (Lambton):

What

happened?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Well-

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April 8, 1926