April 23, 1928

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Supervising the construction.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   QUEBEC, SAGUENAY, CHIBOUGAMOU RAILWAY
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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Yes; I have seen the reports in that regard. I have no official knowledge as to the matter, but this much unofficial knowledge I have: that the Canadian National, for the protection of their own interests, will be entering into an agreement with this company with respect to traffic and also with respect to supervision of standards of construction. With reference to Sir Henry Thornton becoming the vice-president of the company, I have no information, but I shall be glad to make inquiry as to that.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   QUEBEC, SAGUENAY, CHIBOUGAMOU RAILWAY
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RURAL POSTMASTERS


On the orders of the day:


IND

Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. A. W. NEILL (Comox-Alberni):

I

wish to ask the Postmaster General (Mr Veniot) whether we may expect legislation this session dealing with an increase of commissions paid to rural postmasters. I think he indicated earlier in the session that such legislation would be introduced.

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Subtopic:   RURAL POSTMASTERS
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LIB

Peter John Veniot (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Hon. P. J. VENIOT (Postmaster General):

Should the government decide to grant the request, legislation wlil not be necessary. The matter is under consideration. When the supplementary estimates are being dealt with the decision will be given to the house, with Whatever details may be necessary.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   RURAL POSTMASTERS
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TECHNICAL EDUCATION


On the orders of the day:


CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. R. J. MANION (Fort William):

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asked three questions the other day regarding technical education. The final question was:

Does the government contemplate the withdrawal of financial support now provided under the Technical Education Act of 1919?

To which the answer was:

The act does not terminate until March 31, 1929.

I know that the question is really a matter of policy, but in view of the fact that members are receiving from all over the country communications opposing any withdrawal of the aid to technical education, it occurred to me that if the government had not definitely decided to discontinue the assistance to technical education it would be of some satisfaction to those interested throughout the country if a statement to that effect were made.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   TECHNICAL EDUCATION
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY RESPECTING CONTINUANCE OP AID TO PROVINCES
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

At the time of the con-

Technical Education

ference between the members of the federal government and the provincial premiers and ministers the whole question of grants in aid of provincial undertakings was very fully discussed, It was the general view of the premiers and ministers of the provinces that they would like to receive in the form of a direct subsidy anything to which they were entitled in the way of aid from the federal treasury. They took the view that a grant from the federal government carrying with it an obligation on the part of the provincial governments to undertake part of the work was frequently embarrassing, and that on the whole it was not good policy that grants should be made conditional by the federal government. I must say that the representations of the provinces in that particular were pretty generally assented to; it was I believe the general consensus of view that the provinces should deal wholly with these matters, which come primarily within their jurisdiction, and that if the federal treasury were to assist them in any way the assistance should be by way of subsidy grant, thus allowing the provinces to dispose of the funds as they deem best.

With regard to the Technical Education Act, as my hon. friend knows, the intention as expressed at the time the act was introduced was to make from the federal treasury a contribution only over a period of years, primarily with the object of helping the provinces to inaugurate a system of technical education, and secondarily to insure in whatever they might undertake some degree of sjimmetry and uniformity among the provinces themselves. But it was never contemplated that the federal treasury should continue indefinitely to contribute to technical education. At the recent conference there was considerable discussion on the question of scientific and industrial research which, as my hon. friend knows, is closely allied to that of technical education, and in this connection it was felt that the establishment of scientific research laboratories should be undertaken by the federal government. The Minister of Trade and Commerce (Mr. Malcolm) has already intimated to this house that the government has decided to ask parliament to make a substantial grant towards establishing in the capital laboratories for scientific and industrial research, to serve the needs of the entire Dominion. We feel that if we undertake this obligation and establish scientific and industrial research laboratories on the scale which is intended-and the decision was reached after discussion with the provinces themselves-we are going as far as we should be expected to go in dealing

in a combined way with scientific research and technical education.

The aid given under the Technical Education Act does not expire until 1929. It was two or three years ago that the first notification was sent to the provinces that on the expiry of the present act its provisions would not be renewed, and the provinces have had ample opportunity, and still have ample opportunity, to make provision themselves for satisfactorily carrying on the work which has been undertaken. We may consider continuing assistance, for a period of time to correspond with that which the act was originally intended to serve, to provinces that have not taken full advantage of the act, but those that have been receiving aid for the full period of time under the provisions of this act will at the expiration of the act be expected to carry on the work for which this assistance was given them in order to enable them to make a beginning in a satisfactory way.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   TECHNICAL EDUCATION
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY RESPECTING CONTINUANCE OP AID TO PROVINCES
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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

May I say just another

word? I appreciate the statement of the Prime Minister, but would it be of any use under the circumstances for those interested to make representations to the government to reconsider the question, or to keep it open, since they have a year to deal with the matter?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   TECHNICAL EDUCATION
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY RESPECTING CONTINUANCE OP AID TO PROVINCES
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I think it

might as well be understood first as last that the matter is one of government policy. It is only part of the broader policy of seeking to have the provinces continue to deal with matters coming primarily within their own jurisdiction, a practice which came to be subject to some considerable variation only during the war period. At that time there were placed upon the federal treasury a number of obligations which had theretofore been provincial obligations. We feel it is going to be better for all concerned to have the Dominion parliament take care of those matters which are assigned to it under the British North America Act and have the provinces do the same with respect to theirs.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   TECHNICAL EDUCATION
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY RESPECTING CONTINUANCE OP AID TO PROVINCES
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ILLICIT LIQUOR TRAFFIC


On the orders of the day: ' Miss AGNES MACPHAIL (Southeast Grey): Has the attention of the government been called to a report in the Simcoe Reformer of April 12 to the effect that international rum runners are prepared to stage a oitter fight and have had a new bullet-proof speed boat built with modem armament? It is the only one of its kind, but five are ready Exchequer Court Act to leave Port Dover, and the United States officials are proclaiming their intention to meet these boats with armed boats carrying machine guns stationed at two-mile intervals along the shores of the United States. If the government has any knowledge of this, what do they propose doing to prevent unfriendly relations developing out of the situation?


LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Hon. W. D. EULER (Minister of National Revenue):

I also saw in the newspapers the

report as read by my hon. friend, but I took from it that if any such action is proposed, it is proposed by United States people, not by Canadian citizens. I see in that no effort to violate Canadian law.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   ILLICIT LIQUOR TRAFFIC
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UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. E. J. GARLAND (Bow River):

In

the event of the boats just referred to being built in Canada, would the minister think that Canada was not involved in the matter?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   ILLICIT LIQUOR TRAFFIC
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PRISONS AND REFORMATORIES ACT AMENDMENT


Hon. ERNEST LAPOINTE (Minister of Justice) moved the second reading of Bill No. 189, to amend the Prisons and Reformatories Act. Motion agreed to, bill read the second time, and the house went into committee thereon, Mr. Johnston in the chair. On section 1-Application of certain sections of part IX extended to Nova Scotia.


LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

This is a very simple

bill. Part IX of the Prisons and Reformatories Act, section 148 states:

This part applies only to the provinces of Neiv Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.

This is a mistake, because sections 155 to 160 inclusive, which are part of Part IX, apply specifically to the interprovincial home for young women at Cloverdale in New Brunswick and apply to Nova Scotia as well as Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick. This bill is for the purpose of correcting what is an obvious error in section 148.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   PRISONS AND REFORMATORIES ACT AMENDMENT
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Was this not in the

statute before and in the revision, dropped out?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   PRISONS AND REFORMATORIES ACT AMENDMENT
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April 23, 1928