June 13, 1929

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LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

Yes. The hon. member referred to loans made to British settlers. The Dominion government makes no loans of any kind to these settlers.

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UFA
LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

Yes, but I want to repeat,

because there is a general misapprehension on the subject, that the Dominion government makes no loans of any bind to these settlers.

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UFA

Alfred Speakman

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPEAKMAN:

I was not under a misapprehension. Perhaps I did not put my question clearly. I want to know, first, the amount to which the average settler is indebted to the Canadian government in respect of the land purchased, and second, the amount to which he is indebted to the British government in respect of loans made.

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LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

To get at that figure, you

have first the average amount paid for a farm, 78594

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which is $3,505, and you have 3,000 families. Multiply those two figures, and you get the total amount owing, less what has already been paid.

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UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

You do not collect for the British government?

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LIB-PRO
UFA

Alfred Speakman

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPEAKMAN:

What is the average

indebtedness to the British government by way of loan, for which you are not responsible but which you collect?

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LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

I cannot give those figures

offhand.

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UFA

Alfred Speakman

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPEAKMAN:

Have these settlers on

the average received $1,500?

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LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

I do not think that the three thousand families have paid as well in proportion as the soldier settlers.

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Alfred Speakman

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPEAKMAN:

I did not ask that. I asked the average loan made by the British government to each family. I understand that $1,500 is the basis, but that the loans vary. I am trying to find the capital indebtedness of each farm under the empire settlement scheme, and that would include the cost of the land, the loan made by the British government, and the passage money advanced, which is repayable. Those are three types of public indebtedness which these farms would carry.

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LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

I think $800 would be about

the average indebtedness.

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UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

What is the averageacreage per farm allocated to the British families?

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LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

Mostly half-sections.

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UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

For only a total cost

of $3,505?

Mr. fiORKE: There are a number of

quarter-sections.

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UFA

Alfred Speakman

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPEAKMAN:

That is a very great

deal more than the 23 per cent reduction that the soldier settlers got on the revaluation. The farms that I have seen are quarter-sections.

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LIB-PRO

Robert Forke (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal Progressive

Mr. FORKE:

I am speaking without the

book.

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UFA

Alfred Speakman

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPEAKMAN:

I want definite information on this because I have been working on the subject for a long time, and I am being continually asked for information.

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June 13, 1929