March 14, 1930

DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS

RIGHT OF MARRIED WOMEN TO ESTABLISH DOMICILE


Mr. W. J. WARD (Dauphin) moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 31, respecting jurisdiction in proceedings for divorce.


LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

Explain.

Topic:   DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   RIGHT OF MARRIED WOMEN TO ESTABLISH DOMICILE
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LIB-PRO

William John Ward

Liberal Progressive

Mr. WARD:

Mr. Speaker, this is the same bill, with some slight modification, that stood on the order paper in my name Last year and which passed this house but was defeated by a very small margin in the Senate. The purpose of the bill is to establish for the women of Canada the right of equality in applying for divorce.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

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Subtopic:   RIGHT OF MARRIED WOMEN TO ESTABLISH DOMICILE
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PRIVILEGE-MR. SPOTTON


On the orders of the day.


CON

George Spotton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEORGE SPOTTON (North Huron):

Before the orders of the day are called, I wish to make a few observations on a considered article printed in the Ottawa Citizen. Had it been in the nature of a neiws item I would have been pleased to let it pass, but since it is a considered article, as an editorial, and in which I am named, and grossly misrepresented, I rise to a question of privilege in the matter. The editorial is as follows:

Privilege-Mr. Spot ton

Divorce still in Politics

The House of Commons had the opportunity to rid itself of the obnoxious business of sanctioning hundreds of divorces every session. Mr. Woodsworth's bill would have given the province of Ontario authority to establish divorce courts, as they are established in every province outside of Quebec. Last Tuesday night, however, when the house divided on the proposed measure, the majority voted against it.

Criticism is being voiced in some quarters that the French-Canadian members are denying Ontario the right to have divorce courts. After last Tuesday's vote, this criticism is unwarranted. The house divided on Mr. Woodsworth's bill, 78 for and 79 against. One vote made the difference between approval and defeat. Protestant members from Ontario, including some Orangemen on the Conservative side, decided the issue by voting with the Roman Catholic members to defeat the bill.

Under such circumstances, it cannot be said truthfully that Quebec is denying Ontario the desired legislation. French-Canadian and other Roman Catholic members were in the minority.

I am glad to know that some have the definition much clearer than I have. They apparently have a few more degrees.

Political Orangemen, including W. F. Garland of Carleton county, James Arthurs of Parry Sound and George Spotton of North Huron, provided the necessary majority to defeat the bill. [DOT]

After Tuesday's experience, Mr. Woodsworth's energies in parliament can surely be conserved to better purpose for the consideration of economic issues. The game of sectarian politics as it is played for generation after generation between Ontario and Quebec is largely a waste of time. It is certainly a waste of energy for intelligent members like Mr. Woodsworth who are among the few_ to be genuinely interesting themselves in social and economic reconstruction.

Parliament has voted to keep divorce in politics. Some members would be lost without it as one of the issues to be produced from the political conjuror's box of tricks on election platforms in Ontario. Mr. Barnum will never be dead so long as the political hocus-pocus between Ontario and Quebec can be kept alive.

I am free to admit that I am an Orangeman, and I am proud of it. I would expect any other brother of the dust in this house to be proud of any organization to which he may have subscribed. I do, however, take objection to this official organ of the Orange order, the Citizen, telling me when and how I should vote. I strenuously object to the imputation and the implication in the sentence:

Protestant members from Ontario, including some Orangemen on the Conservative side, decided the issue by voting with the Roman Catholic members to defeat the bill.

I was one of those Orangemen who so voted, and I am prepared to vote that way again regardless of the criticism of any organization, society or newspaper. I am unalterably opposed to making divorce any easier to 2419-38

obtain in this country, and, I will not change my vote. I claim the proud privilege of voting with the Roman Catholic members of this house if I see fit to do so, and I am not dishonouring my name, the name of my predecessors or the reputation of my constituency in so doing. I wish boldly to repel the implication that an Orangeman cannot register his conviction in a certain way because he is walking hand in hand with men of another faith with the purpose of restraining a great evil in this country.

I am an Orangeman, but I am not a political Orangeman. The Orange order to which I belong asks nothing for itself that it is not willing to give any brother in this country.

What matter that at different times Our fathers claimed the sod?

What matter that at different shrines They prayed unto one God?

In fortune and in fame we're bound In stronger links than steel;

And neither could be safe or sound But in the others' weal.

I am sent here to represent the people of North Huron, not the Ottawa Citizen or an occasional wild man from Borneo who may go from Toronto to attend the Grand Lodge of Western Ontario. I am here, sir, to register my conviction as representing my constituency and not as an Orangeman I am not ashamed of voting hand in hand with the French Canadians, and my Roman Catholic fellow citizens in this house.

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CORRECTION-MR. BOURASSA


On the orders of the day:


IND

Joseph Henri Napoléon Bourassa

Independent

Mr. BOURASSA:

Onice more I wish to

apologize to the house, and more particularly to the members from Ontario, for another mistake I made with regard to the vote on the second reading of the bill proposed by my hon. friend from Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Woodsworth). I stated yesterday, as appears in Hansard at page 548, that twenty-three members for Ontario voted in favour of the bill, and twenty-eight members instead of twenty-six voted against it. A friend of mine called my attention to the fact that I was wrong again in my second calculation; and that twenty-nine members instead of twenty-eight voted against the bill. We compared notes, and the explanation of my mistake, which I admit quite freely, is that I counted our friend from South Bruce (Mr. Hall) as one of the representatives from Quebec. He looks so respectable, so amenable, that I always thought he belonged to the eastern townships of Quebec; but I found upon inquiry that he belongs to that noble

St. Lawrence Waterway

section of Ontario which does not want to be dictated to by westerners as to what they want or want not.

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CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAMSHIPS

REPORT THAT VESSELS IN WEST INDIES SERVICE TO CALL AT BOSTON


On the orders of the day:


CON

William Anderson Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. W. A. BLACK (Halifax):

Mr. Speaker, my attention has been called to an article in a Halifax paper which is headed "C.N.S. Steamers Are To Call At Boston." The text is as follows

The Canadian National steamers on the eastern service-Lady Nelson, Lady Hawkins, Lady Drake-are calling at Boston north and south bound starting with sailings from Boston on May 1, south bound to Bermuda and West Indies.

North bound, the steamers will call at Boston on May 28 and fortnightly thereafter during the period of the summer service.

May I ask if these steamers built at the cost of many millions of dollars paid by the taxpayers of this country for the express purpose of carrying out the treaty between Canada and the West Indies are to be permitted to make a foreign port, that of Boston, the home port of that line of boats. I call the attention of the government and particularly the attention of the Minister of Railways, to that situation.

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Subtopic:   REPORT THAT VESSELS IN WEST INDIES SERVICE TO CALL AT BOSTON
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Hon. T. A. CRERAR (Minister of Railways and Canals):

I may say in reply to my hon.

friend there is no foundation for the article he has just read.

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CON

William Anderson Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLACK (Halifax):

I am very glad to hear it.

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Subtopic:   REPORT THAT VESSELS IN WEST INDIES SERVICE TO CALL AT BOSTON
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ST. LAWRENCE WATERWAY IMPROVEMENT OF CHANNEL BETWEEN LAKE ONTARIO AND PRESCOTT


On the orders of the day:


CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Leader of the Opposition):

Before proceeding with the

orders of the day I wish to ask the Minister of Public Works (Mr. Elliott), pursuant to notice I gave him as to whether or not an article is correct which appeared1 in this morning's issue of the Ottawa Journal from the Canadian Press staff correspondent at Washington indicating that Canada was to be given the right to use American channels in cutting a waterway which will enable vessels of considerable draught to proceed from lake Ontario to Prescott. I would also ask whether or not in the event of it being correct the whole cost is to be borne by Canada.

Topic:   ST. LAWRENCE WATERWAY IMPROVEMENT OF CHANNEL BETWEEN LAKE ONTARIO AND PRESCOTT
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March 14, 1930