March 21, 1930

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

That is the name I was trying to think of. That will be cut out.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Yes.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

We will get rid of that

difficulty; but see what will happen: you will have one little section across an arbitrary line subject to the laws of the province of Alberta. Then you are to pass legislation to take these coal mines, the Luscar collieries, out of it. They are no longer subject to federal control, but across an imaginary line the whole community is, within the Jasper terminals.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Yes, in the centre of the park.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Those are the difficulties I see and it occurs to me we should have some regard to provincial rights. However great the parks are in this country, they cannot be greater than that. I had hoped the minister might be able to devise a scheme whereby he could, without difficulty, ensure that the regulations passed by the federal government for the control of the people in that area, might be approved by the provincial authorities and that there might if necessary be inserted in the agreement a provision that that approval should not be arbitrarily withheld. For instance, in most leases to-day there is a provision that the tenant will not sublet without leave, provided always that such leave will not be unreasonably withheld. Those words have now been given by the courts-of the country a well defined judicial meaning. One must think not of to-day but of many years hence in connection with imposing such a condition upon the people of this country. It seems to me intolerable when you preface the agreement by saying that you are not going to place the people in that area on an equality with people in other parts of the country. I cannot imagine parliament endeavouring to do anything like that with respect to Ontario and Quebec, the older provinces.

Natural Resources-British Columbia

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

As regards

the administration of the park, we have endeavoured to foresee most of the difficulties that may arise, for example, in the mining, the commercial portions of the park, by the removal of the control of the province. All the laws of the province will apply with the single exception that, of course, we reserve the right, which my hon. friend was complaining about, to override any law that we might think repugnant to the administration of the park.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

And it is against that

principle the Minister of Justice has been struggling in London with the British parliament.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

We are dealing with

our own property; that is the difference.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

So far as

Alberta is concerned, but not British Columbia.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

That is what we are

talking about for the moment.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

It will be

necessary for the parliament of Canada year by year to spend larger and larger sums of money upon the parks than have been spent in the past. The parks provide for the people of Canada as well as for those of other countries an attraction that brings a great deal of money into the country and the provincial governments must, of necessity, benefit by the influx of those people into the parks.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

What about licence fees?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Some of the licence fees go to the province. They have been going to the provinces in the past.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The licence fees?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Yes.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The licence fees at Banff go to the federal department.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Some of

them. As regards moving picture licence fees, automobile licence fees, gas tax, all these regulations are and will be in effect within the park boundaries and the (province will derive a very substantial income from them. I am not suggesting that all these revenues be taken away from the province and given to the federal government. All I am asking for is sufficient authority to maintain the scenic properties of the park and to administer the park without too great an interference by the provincial authorities. In the main, however, the provincial laws will prevail inside

the park. If my horn, friend were to ask me of any provincial law that is repugnant, I could not at the moment mention one.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Because that is covered by an arrangement at the moment.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

We have got along very amicably and have been carrying along the administration of the park quite successfully without any conflict with the province at all. However, I promise to give this matter some thought and see if we can meet the objection that my hon. friend raises in that particular respect.

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LAB

Herbert Bealey Adshead

Labour

Mr. ADSHEAD:

Does the sale of liquor within the park come under the control of the provincial or the Dominion government?

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March 21, 1930