February 17, 1932

CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

At the present moment, I cannot.

Topic:   HOURS OF LABOUR
Subtopic:   OBLIGATIONS AND CONVENTIONS ARISING OUT OF PEACE TREATY
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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

Mr. Speaker-

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

If the hon. member speaks now it will close the debate.

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Subtopic:   OBLIGATIONS AND CONVENTIONS ARISING OUT OF PEACE TREATY
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CON

James Herbert Stitt

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STITT (Selkirk):

I hope the hon.

member will not blame me this time for talking out the resolution.

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Subtopic:   OBLIGATIONS AND CONVENTIONS ARISING OUT OF PEACE TREATY
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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

I am closing the debate and the hon. member will not be given an opportunity to talk it out this time. It seems to me the hon. member is smarting under some grievance. The hon. Minister of Justice (Mr. Guthrie), speaking on behalf of the government, has shown quite clearly that this resolution was not carried at the last session because of certain things which had occurred. The hon. member for Selkirk may have the consolation that he prevented the .government from accepting this resolution, and yet he pretends to be a friend of labour.

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Subtopic:   OBLIGATIONS AND CONVENTIONS ARISING OUT OF PEACE TREATY
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CON

James Herbert Stitt

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STITT (Selkirk):

I object to the statement of my hon. friend.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

Is the hon. member speaking on a question of privilege?

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CON

James Herbert Stitt

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STITT (Selkirk):

Yes, Mr. Speaker. The hon. member has stated that last year I obstructed this debate. This is the very statement in respect to which you called the hon. member to order yesterday, and he took it back. He now repeats it; he claims that I obstructed this resolution. Last year I spoke for ten minutes while my hon. friend read and spoke for hours at a time when the house was ready to adopt the resolution.

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Subtopic:   OBLIGATIONS AND CONVENTIONS ARISING OUT OF PEACE TREATY
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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The incident referred to was satisfactorily adjusted a few days ago. The hon. member for Kenora-Rainy River (Mr. Heenan) withdrew the inference he had made that the hon. member for Selkirk (Mr. Stitt) had wilfully obstructed the passage of the resolution. This is all a matter of record.

Farm Relief-Mr. McKenzie

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CON

James Herbert Stitt

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STITT (Selkirk):

The hon. member has just repeated his statement that I obstructed the resolution.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. member for Kenora-Rainy-River took the right course, and I do not think the point raised by the hon. member for Selkirk is well taken.

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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

Mr. Speaker, I cannot understand why the hon. member for Selkirk should appear to be smarting under such a terrible grievance. The result of his tactics last year was to block the passage of the resolution.

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Subtopic:   OBLIGATIONS AND CONVENTIONS ARISING OUT OF PEACE TREATY
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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

After the hon. member for Selkirk had spoken for some considerable time, I rose in my place and made the following statement, as appears on page 1730 of Hansard of 1931:

I was wondering if the hon. member heard the acting leader of the government say that he was willing the motion should carry. I would remind the hon. member that it is now just one minute to eleven o'clock.

The hon. member continued to speak, and at eleven o'clock Mr. Speaker made the following statement:

It being eleven o'clock the house will stand adjourned until to-morrow at three o'clock.

We need not discuss the matter further, until we are on the platform of my hon. friend during the next election.

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CON

James Herbert Stitt

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STITT (Selkirk):

The hon. member

did not worry me much last year.

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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

I appreciate the remarks

of the Minister of Justice and I realize that it is an honour to have a resolution of this description passed in my name. I do not regard the remarks of the minister in the same light as does the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Woodsworth). I understood the hon. minister to state that he would call a conference of the provinces and that he would ask them in the name of Canada to pass this legislation.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

This would be only one

of many questions to be brought before the conference.

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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

I quite understand that,

but I consider that this is one of the most important, as it is now before this house. I did not go into the details as to how the object sought could be accomplished, but there are many ways in which it could be done. If the provinces are not united it may be necessary for the government of Canada to take drastic measures to discipline some of the provinces. I recall moving a similar reso-41761-19

lution in the Ontario legislature in 1924, and the premier asked that the resolution be carried with a slight amendment to the effect that it would come into force when the other provinces had enacted similar legislation. This was an easy way of disposing of the subject.

I believe the province of Nova Scotia had been ready for some time to adopt this measure. When I was acting as Minister of Labour I discussed this matter with the representatives of many of the provinces and I found they were coming more and more to our way of thinking. I think the time is ripe to call a conference with the object of having this legislation adopted through the various provinces during the coming year.

As regards the statement of the hon. member for Bona venture (Mr. Marcil) that some of the men in his constituency would like to work longer than eight hours a day in order to make more money, such a condition would be unnecessary if the provinces and the capitalists of this country would follow the lead given by the federal parliament when it put into operation the eight hour day for government employees; and we did not reduce their salaries one cent. Consequently there is no need for alarm so far as that is concerned.

In conclusion I would say I appreciate the honour of having the government accept this resolution.

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Motion agreed to.


FARM RELIEF

February 17, 1932