April 5, 1932

UFA

George Gibson Coote

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. COOTE:

I am not attempting to debate that resolution; at the present time I am endeavouring simply to correct some figures which have been placed upon Hansard and from which I think a wrong inference has been drawn by certain people and is liable to be drawn iby others. I should like the opportunity to correct those figures. I always understood that a motion for supply was debatable on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, so that any member who had a grievance could air it before the house, and that is all I am trying to do to-day. I shall be as brief as possible-

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

Mr. Speaker, have you made a ruling on this? If so, I think the hon. member should be asked to obey it.

I Mr. Coote.]

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

I think the hon. member understood my ruling and in his continuing remarks he will not undertake to disobey it. The ruling was plain enough.

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UFA

George Gibson Coote

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. COOTE:

All I say is that on that occasion the Prime Minister stated that the gold withdrawals from the Bank of England-

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

Order!

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UFA

George Gibson Coote

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. COOTE:

-amounted in two days, Friday and Saturday, to ten billion pounds, which, of course, is more gold than there is in existence.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

I should like to have this matter settled one way or the other. I submit the hon. member is in open defiance of your ruling, Mr. Speaker, and I ask that you enforce it.

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UFA

George Gibson Coote

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. COOTE:

I would like simply, if I may, to correct those figures.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

The hon. member has

done so half a dozen times.

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UFA

George Gibson Coote

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. COOTE:

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

I would ask for your

ruling, Mr. Speaker.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

Would the hon. Minister

of Justice please state his point?

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

I make the point, Mr. Speaker, that you ruled that this subject was a discussion of a motion already on the order paper and that the hon. member was out of order. He is also quoting from a previous debate in this house this session, which makes him equally out of order; and the debate has not yet concluded.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

It is quite out of order

to refer to a previous debate in the same session on a different subject and I hope the hon. member will not transgress that rule. My ruling is that he cannot now discuss the resolution standing on the order paper in his name.

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UFA

George Gibson Coote

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. COOTE:

I would be one of the last

men in this house, Mr. Speaker, to dispute your ruling, but I submit that I have not discussed the motion standing in my name. I have simply attempted to correct some figures which have been placed on Hansard and which appear in the Montreal Star of the

Supply-M iscellaneous

first of March. I think that is a privilege which should be accorded any hon. member on a motion to go into supply. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportunity for correcting those figures. I have not done it as completely as I should like to have done, but I do not wish to run the risk of even seeming to challenge your ruling, Mr. Speaker.

Motion agreed to and the house went into committee of supply, Mr. Hanson (York-Sun-bury) in the chair.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

We propose to take the departments which were mentioned last evening before the adjournment of the house, and then to take up the departments which the right hon. gentleman stated they were prepared to discuss in detail. That is, we will call an item in each of the remaining departments, and then take up Mines, Interior, Immigration and Colonization, Pensions and National Health.

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LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

Mr. Chairman, at this end of the chamber we have no idea of the business that is being transacted.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Come on up to this end.

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An hon. MEMBER:

Join the Tories.

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LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

I would ask hon. members to bear in mind that there are some of us who are trying to follow the business of this house, and we cannot possibly do it.

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April 5, 1932