Mr. SPEAKER:

May I interrupt the hon. member to point out that according to standing order 31 which governs such a motion-

Mr. HEAPS:

May I without being discourteous to the chair-

Order.

Mr. HEAPS:

This is part of the motion.

Order.

Mr. HEAPS:

I was just pointing out-

Order. Sit down.

Mr. SPEAKER:

I point out to the hon.

member who is asking leave to propose this motion that the first paragraph of standing order 31 states when such a motion shall be made, that it shall be before notices of motion. That order on the order paper is past, and the motion which he is now making is too late.

Mr. HEAPS:

Mr. Speaker-

Order.

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. member has

the right, and I shall allow any member of the house to discuss the matter in the regular way.

Mr. HEAPS:

Standing order 31 also says:

Leave to make a motion for the adjournment of the house (when made for the purpose of discussing a definite matter of urgent public importance) must be asked' after the ordinary daily routine of business (standing order 15).

I submit with all due deference that the ordinary routine business has not yet been disposed of. We are now on the orders of the day, with private members still having

precedence, and until the private members are through with their questioning I claim that I still have the right to place this resolution before parliament.

Mr. SPEAKER:

The routine proceedings

are as set out at page 2 of the routine proceedings and orders of the day of Wednesday, March 27.

Mr. HEAPS:

Louder, we cannot hear a

word. .

Mr. SPEAKER:

The routine proceedings

are set out on page 2. Then follow the questions. Following questions are notices of motions for the production of papers.

The learned author of Beauchesne's Parliamentary Rules and Forms has pointed out, what I think was pointed out by the hon. member who spoke to the point of order, that standing order 15 does set out what the routine proceedings are, and they always are carried on daily and are strictly observed in drawing up the orders of the day. As I read paragraph (1) of standing order 31, a motion to adjourn the house must be made after the daily routine business has been concluded and before notices of motion. It occurs to me that the time is now too late to make the motion.

Mr. ROBERT GARDINER (Acadia):

May I call Your Honour's attention to the orders of the day for Wednesday, as shown on page 40 of Beauchesne. They are as follows: questions; notices of motions; public bills and orders; government notices of motions; government orders. Now we have not yet reached the proceeding of government orders; in fact we have not even reached notices of motions. Consequently, I think the hon. member for North Winnipeg is in order.

Mr. SPEAKER:

I could not quite hear

the first part of the hon. member's remarks. Is he referring to page 40?

Mr. GARDINER:

Yes, page 40, the

routine proceedings for Wednesday, that is to-day.

Mr. SPEAKER:

Questions; notices of

motions; public bills and orders; government notices of motions; government orders. That is the business of the day; that is after routine proceedings. If the hon. member would refer to paragraph 2 on the preceding page he would see that the ordinary daily routine of business is set out, consisting of presenting reports by standing and select committees; motions-including notices of motion for the production of papers-and introduction of bills. Those are the routine

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proceedings according to standing order 15; they are always so designated in the orders of the day presented to the house each day.

Mr. HEAPS:

But may I point out that paragraph 134 on page 42 says:

The time for asking leave to move the adjournment of the house for the purpose of discussing a definite matter of urgent public importance is after "routine proceedings" and before notices of motions or orders of the day are entered upon.

The word "or" is there which, according to my interpretation of this paragraph, means that my motion is perfectly in. order.