Mr. DURANLEAU:

Wait a minute. I have been paying him $10,000 when my hon. friends opposite were paying to Mr. Swan for the work at Three Rivers five per cent. My hon. friends can laugh, but during 1929 and 1930 these gentlemen on the other side of the bouse, Mr. Chairman, paid about $100,000 to Mr. Swan only for the work in Three Rivers, and about $100,000 to the same man for the work in Chicoutimi, and that man had a contract with those two harbour commissions for the life of the commissions at five per cent on all the works they would perform. We are paying to Mr. Gohier, under a specific contract for a work of $153,000 at Chicoutimi, S4,000, which is less than one-half what my hon. friends were paying to Mr. Swan at both Three Rivers and Chicoutimi. My hon. friend from Quebec East (Mr. Lapointe) is laughing.

Mr. LAPOINTE:

That is the only privilege I have.

Mr. DURANLEAU:

Next time, Mr. Chairman, I will bring down the figures paid by my hon. friends to Mr. Swan, under agreements executed under the Liberal regime, and this will put an end to the criticism of my hon. friends.

Mr. POWER:

In the meantime, will the minister give me the contracts I asked for?

Mr. DURANLEAU:

They are here.

Section stands.

Progress reported.

Hon. E. N. RHODES (Minister of Finance):

May I say to my right hon. friend that whether or not it is wise to have a prolonged adjournment, the fact is that we have carried the motion for adjournment, which will mean that automatically this house adjourns tomorrow evening at six o'clock. That matter having been determined, I respectfully submit that it is idle to discuss the question now of continuing so far as this bill is concerned and not having an adjournment. But I can assure my right hon. friend that there is no desire so far as the government is concerned to deny the fullest information to the opposition if they will only permit the ministers to make reply with respect to the several items. If the house is agreeable I should be quite content by unanimous consent, if it is so desired, that we adjourn until eleven o'clock to-morrow morning, which would give us two extra hours for the purpose of securing full information on this bill. We desire to get royal assent to-morrow afternoon. This suggestion that we meet at eleven o'clock to-morrow may not meet the views of the house. It could be done only by unanimous consent, but I submit it in good faith and with the object of accommodating the house in getting the information it desires.

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

two before an adjournment or the close of the session. So far as I personally am concerned, I am quite agreeable to falling in with the suggestion made by the Minister of Finance, of having the house adjourn until to-morrow morning at eleven o'clock. If that is done, however, I submit that we shall expect the ministers to be in a position to give us the full details required with respect to the different items that are mentioned in the schedule. A general reply to the effect that money for geological survey is to be used for geological survey purposes will not suffice to justify the passing of the measure in this form. I think we ought to have the details in the form in which they were given last year, and the form in which we would expect to find them in the estimates. I express my own view with respect to meeting in the morning. It has to be by unanimous consent, and I do not wish to impose an obligation on anyone else. But if it will help to meet a situation for which the government is wholly responsible, for my part I am quite prepared to cooperate to that extent.

Mr. RHODES:

I thank my right hon. friend for the manner in which he has met my suggestion. I am not complaining about his search for information; that is right and proper, and he and his associates are entitled to complete and full information. I submit that we can start in with the different items in the schedule. I do not think we can give further information than is given with regard to the railway crossing fund, because under the set-up in connection with the expenditures under that fund we are following the procedure which has been followed since the beginning of the operation of the fund. I assure my right hon. friend that the ministers will all be here to-morrow morning, prepared to supply the necessary information.

Mr. POWER:

Will they have full details of the, 130 estimates?

Mr. RHODES:

In that connection let me say this-and I do it in good part. The house is entitled to full information with respect to all expenditures, but I would point out to my hon. friend that we have not completed our main estimates, upon which full information can be elicited with respect to all expenditures.

Mr. MACKENZIE (Vancouver):

Not these.

Mr. RHODES:

These have not been made; that is the point. Hon. gentlemen will be entitled next year to information with respect to expenditures made under this vote, but

they can get full details when the ordinary estimates are under consideration and when the supplementary estimates for this year are brought down. So that they are not denied information. I submit that that information has no bearing on this bill, the expenditures under which are designed solely with the object of meeting the necessity of providing for unemployment relief. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, to test the house, I move that when this house adjourns it shall stand adjourned until to-morrow at eleven o'clock. That motion can be entertained only by unanimous consent.

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Speaking about following procedure that is customary and proper, I hope the government will be prepared to adopt, regarding these particular estimates affecting public works, the procedure followed with respect to public works generally, of having public tenders called for where the amount to be expended is in excess of 85,000.

Mr. MANION:

We will deal with that when we come to it.