July 5, 1935


The house resumed consideration in committee of Bill No. 105, to amend the Dominion Elections Act, 1934-Mr. Guthrie-Mr. Smith (Cumberland) in the chair. On section 3-Form 20 amended.


CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

Mr. Chairman, at the

suggestion of the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth (Mr. Ralston), in regard to the case of an illiterate voter who does not sign his name I have drafted a short amendment that might cover some of the objections that have been offered to this section. The amendment is as follows:

That is my true name, and that

the signature hereto is in my usual handwriting; or in the case of an illiterate voter, that the mark placed hereto is my usual method of signing my name.

I should be content to accept that amendment instead of the section as drawn.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

What protection will that be? What will that mark be a protection against?

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

There are very few

illiterate voters in Canada. It would not be protection equal to the signature.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

But "Mr. Telegrapher"

would say, "I am an illiterate voter."

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

We would have to take

that chance. This is to prevent fraud as far as possible. We cannot foresee every case.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

But that is naturally what he would do. If he were afraid of the crime of forgery, as suggested by my hon. friend the Minister of Railways, he would say, "All right; I cannot sign." He would walk into the poll; he would be duly sworn; he would go in with the representatives of both parties; he would go through all the performance of an illiterate and they would say, "All right, come and put your mark here." He would place his mark there and he would do it forty-two times, just like the man who is sworn.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

Then we had better

stick to the clause as drawn. I am only suggesting this at the instance of the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

This is not any better.

Amendment agreed to on division.

Section as amended agreed to on division.

Section 4 agreed to.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

Before the bill is reported, there were two amendments added last night at the end of the bill. Did we get those in order?

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CON

Ernest D'Israeli Smith

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Mr. Smith, Cumberland) :

Yes, I have them here.

Bill reported, read the third time on

division, and passed.

Trade Commission

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TRADE AND INDUSTRY COMMISSION

LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Leader of the Opposition):

Has the house

finally considered the amendments made by the Senate 'to Bill No. 86? I understood a further conference was going on, and that we had not received the final report.

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Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. E. N. RHODES (Minister of Finance):

My right hon. friend may be correct; I will ascertain the situation as quickly as possible. I believe so far as we in this house are concerned, however, the procedure is concluded.

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CON

Hugh Guthrie (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GUTHRIE:

We refuse to concur in three of the Senate amendments to that bill.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

We might go through the remaining supplementary and main estimates, reserving one of the readings.

M.r. BENNETT: The Senate have not concluded with Bill No. 86. I had a conference with them. It has not yet come back to the house but will be back presently. There are some supplementary estimates not yet disposed of.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

If we have concluded with everything except Bill No. 86 I see no reason why we might not go ahead with supply, and pass it in whole, but it is understood that there is to be no measure considered other than Bill No. 86. Is that it?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

After we get the supply bill through, we want to vote on the Harris resolution because it was a vote the right hon. gentleman asked for, not a discussion.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I do not want to repeat what the Right Hon. Mr. Thomas said, but I think it would be all humbug to have a vote on that resolution at this time.

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July 5, 1935