Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)
Liberal
Mr. DUNNING:
Quote the rule.
Mr. DUNNING:
Quote the rule.
Mr. BENNETT:
The rule?
Mr. DUNNING:
Yes.
Mr. BENNETT:
It does not require a
rule. It has been done frequently when there have been questions as to statements, and Hansard has given the words.
Mr. GARDINER:
Mr. Chairman, when
there is any question with regard to the statement of an hon. member the member has the right in this house, and in any other house in the British Empire, to say what he said and what he intended to say, as a fellow member of this house.
Mr. CAHAN:
No, not when you have
heard it.
Mr. GARDINER:
Even when you have
heard it. I have noticed this, that when on one occasion the right hon. the leader of the opposition made a speech-
Mr. BENNETT:
I rise now, if we are
going to talk about order, the Minister of Agriculture is talking about what the leader of the opposition did at some other time. The question of order is whether he did or did not make the statement. The statement of the Minister of Agriculture, which was heard by every hon. member, was made when he began to read from a newspaper purporting to be the Leader-Post of Regina. His statement was that the words contained in the statement were those of the minister.
Mr. GARDINER:
On the point of order-
The CHAIRMAN:
In my opinion the
point of order is not well taken.
Mr. GARDINER:
Well, Mr. Chairman,
getting back to where we left the discussion: I was stating that the Minister of Agriculture prior to the time of the appointment of the committee had taken a certain position in relation to this particular matter. Now that the leader of the opposition has called my attention to it, I might say that this newspaper article is so much like what the minister did say in the house at a later date and is so much like the policy that was finally adopted, I have no hesitation in saying that whatever newspaper reporter put this in the press must have had official information, as he says at the beginning of the article.
Mr. BENNETT:
He did not even say
that. Here we have a minister with some sense of responsibility rising in his place to state that he assumes the responsibility of saying that a minister made a certain statement.
Farm Rehabilitation Act
The CHAIRMAN:
Is the right hon. leader of the opposition rising to another point of order?
Mr. BENNETT:
It seems to be useless
to raise points of order, but I am raising one.
Order.
Mr. BENNETT:
There is no "order"
about this.
There should be.
Mr. BENNETT:
The point is that we
have a minister, even when his attention is directed to it, attributing to a former minister something which appears in the newspaper and saying that it represents that minister s official opinion.
Mr. DUNNING:
On the point of order, I
assume the Minister of Agriculture has a right to express an opinion as to the veracity of a newspaper article, which is what he is doing.
Mr. BENNETT:
The Minister of Finance should know better than that. In the British House of Commons he would not be permitted to read the article at all.