March 13, 1939

SC

John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

There is nothing like that contained in the resolution. There is no suggestion that there should be an investigation into campaign funds in respect to the dredging of the St. Lawrence river.

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John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

I ask my hon. friend just how he reads that into the resolution.

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Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

The mover spoke of that as one reason for his resolution.

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John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

He was just referring to an editorial to show the need for an investigation into this matter. I believe the hon. member who moved the amendment will agree when I say that he wants to establish whether or not there is a central campaign fund; whether or not there is any record of this fund; whether or not the fund has been audited, and so on. Surely these vast sums of money are not paid into a fund with no record being kept. I am not even suggesting that there is a central campaign fund, though many have declared that to be so.

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Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

Assuming that this amendment were in order and that it were carried,, would the hon. member be prepared to ask

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the premier of Alberta to explain what was done with the $100,000 voted by the legislature of Alberta for propaganda purposes, which we all know went to help elect Social Credit candidates in Saskatchewan?

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John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

That, Mr. Speaker, is a deliberate falsehood. Further, I am prepared to say-

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Walter Edward Foster (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I think the hon. member must withdraw that expression. I do not believe it is parliamentary.

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John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

I simply ask the hon. member to confine himself to a statement that can be accepted by us as the truth.

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Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

I. assume, Mr. Speaker, that in saying it was a falsehood the hon. member wishes to withdraw any innuendo that might be understood.

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SC

John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

If my hon. friend desires an investigation into the affairs of the province of Alberta-

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Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

No, I was simply asking the hon. member to do what I know he will do, withdraw any suggestion that I was guilty of a falsehood.

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John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

I will withdraw any suggestion that the hon. member himself was guilty of a falsehood, though the statement he made was not true. In fact, the premier of the province of Alberta has declared that it is not the truth. Those charges were made in Alberta, and he stated that they were wrong. I ask my hon. friend upon what he bases that remark. Is it on rumours, or newspaper clippings?

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Walter Edward Foster (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I do not think it proper for the hon. member to ask questions of this kind. The house is not in committee, and it is not proper to put questions across the floor at this time.

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John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

Then may I say to my hon. friend and to the house that we do not hesitate to say that we want a complete investigation into all these matters, if you want to extend it that far, though I believe the investigation should be confined to the affairs of this parliament. In regard to the promise hon. gentlemen opposite claim we made the people of Alberta in regard to the payment of $25 a month, I should like to see that matter referred to the banking and commerce committee or some other committee for investigation, because it is right in line with the promises made by the Liberal party that they would issue currency and credit to meet the

needs of the people. I think there is no doubt the people of this country are in need of increased purchasing power. We can debate the amount, but I do not believe $25 is too much to suggest.

I hope in this amendment we shall have the united support of all hon. members of the house. I believe it would clear the air and would indicate our sincerity in this matter. It would disclose possible information which would be very valuable to us in drafting amendments to the bill itself.

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James Samuel Taylor

Independent

Mr. J. S. TAYLOR (Nanaimo):

Mr. Speaker, I am assuming that the minister was absolutely sincere in what he represented to us this afternoon. From my point of view, this resolution marks a tremendous advance in our political life, and I think we ought to accept it as such. Inherent in every man is a suggestion of sadism, sometimes physical and sometimes intellectual. I deplore the suggestions that have been put forward in this house that we should rake over the coals of the past. If we have been playing with cards having unequal angles, the new deck about to be distributed is the one with which we shall work in the future. I call for a clean sweep. I should like to see absolute purity in the whole of our political life. I definitely associate myself with the minister's resolution and announce my opposition to the amendment.

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William Henry Golding

Liberal

Mr. W. H. GOLDING (Huron-Perth):

Mr. Speaker, in connection with the statement made a short time ago with reference to the promise to pay a monthly dividend of $25 in Alberta, I may say that during the election in that province I had sent to me some of the literature which was used by study clubs and other groups throughout the province prior to and during the election campaign. When Mr. Aberhart, the premier of Alberta, was in our town, last December, he made the following statement-

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René-Antoine Pelletier

Social Credit

Mr. PELLETIER:

Having absolutely no objection to any hon. member discussing the $25 per month dividend-

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An hon. MEMBER:

You have no objection!

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March 13, 1939