May 28, 1940

LIB

James Angus MacKinnon (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. MacKINNON (Edmonton West):

The section with which we are now dealing relates merely to the correction of the numbering of paragraphs. I can go fully into the matter if the hon. member wishes.

Topic:   CANADA GRAIN ACT
Subtopic:   CORRECTION OF INACCURACIES IN CHAPTER 36 OF STATUTES OF 1939
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NAT

Ernest Edward Perley

National Government

Mr. PERLEY:

The minister might give us some information as to the effect of the amendment he made last year in this respect, as they related to the marketing of the crop last year. Probably the Minister of Agriculture will recall that provision was made for a certain amount of mixing so long as it did not interfere with the ultimate grading of the grain as it was weighed out or shipped out of the terminal elevator for export. What was the effect of the amendment last year?

Topic:   CANADA GRAIN ACT
Subtopic:   CORRECTION OF INACCURACIES IN CHAPTER 36 OF STATUTES OF 1939
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LIB

Thomas Vien (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

This section is only for the purpose of correcting the numbering. At present there are three subsections, and the purport of the present section is to make subsections 3, 4 and 5 read 4, 5 and 6. Therefore the question is out of order under section 1. Shall section 1 carry?

Topic:   CANADA GRAIN ACT
Subtopic:   CORRECTION OF INACCURACIES IN CHAPTER 36 OF STATUTES OF 1939
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Section agreed to. Sections 2 to 4 inclusive agreed to. Bill reported, read the third time and passed. Seeds Act


SEEDS ACT

MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES


Hon. J. G. GARDINER (Minister of Agriculture) moved that the house go into committee to consider the following resolution: That it is expedient to bring in a measure to amend the Seeds Act, 1937, to empower the minister to prescribe fees for seed control services. Motion agreed to and the house went into committee, Mr. Vien in the chair.


CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

Will the minister explain the resolution?

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

We test in our laboratories approximately 100,000 samples of seeds each year. The tests are made in large part for the purpose of selling seeds under grade certificates as required by the Seeds Act. Those having seeds require them to be tested for selling purposes and they are given a certificate showing that the seed is of a certain type. The practice has grown up of having seed tested for all kinds of purposes, and these tests could very easily be made at home. There is no difficulty about making them. Instructions can always be obtained free of charge as to how to make tests and how to consider them. It is proposed to charge a small fee for tests in order to stop a practice which has grown up which takes up a great deal of time and causes a great deal of expense in this branch of the department in carrying out tests which are not absolutely necessary. In addition to that it is intended to charge enough to cover at least a part of the cost of giving the service to those who have considerable quantities of grain to sell. The fee will be a very small one.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

Is there

any authority at the present time to charge such a fee?

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

No.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

The object is to legalize the charge?

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Yes.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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CON

Mark Cecil Senn

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SENN:

I notice in the report of the

Minister of Agriculture for the year ended March 31, 1939, a statement at page 106 that under the Seeds Act and regulations revenues amounting to S37.744 were collected for the fiscal year. What were these services for? Were they for regular inspection, when perhaps a conviction was going to be registered?

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I am not prepared to

say at the moment, but when the estimates are

[The Chairman.]

under consideration I will discuss the item. There is no power under the act to charge the fees proposed here.

Resolution reported, read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Gardiner thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 19, to amend the Seeds Act, 1937.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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WHEAT COOPERATIVE MARKETING

CALCULATION OF INITIAL PAYMENTS TO SELLING AGENCIES-AUTHORITY FOR PAYMENT OF LIABILITIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES


Hon. J. G. GARDINER (Minister of Agriculture) moved that the house go into committee to consider the following resolution: That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend The Wheat Cooperative Marketing Act, 1939, to provide for the calculation of initial payments paid to selling agencies, and also to grant authority for payment of liabilities of the minister under any agreement and of administrative expenses. Motion agreed to and the house went into committee, Mr. Vien in the chair.


SC

Victor Quelch

Social Credit

Mr. QUELCH:

Will the minister explain?

Topic:   WHEAT COOPERATIVE MARKETING
Subtopic:   CALCULATION OF INITIAL PAYMENTS TO SELLING AGENCIES-AUTHORITY FOR PAYMENT OF LIABILITIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

The first important

change is simply an enlargement of the definition of primary producer. At present primary producer means any person who is engaged in the production of wheat and it is intended to widen that definition to provide that "producer" shall be deemed to include any person entitled, as landlord, vendor, mortgagor or otherwise, or by contract or operation of law, to wheat grown by the producer, or any share therein. It makes provision whereby under a crop agreement a person entitled to a third of the crop may deliver under the act as well as a person entitled to two-thirds. The next section provides for the correction of an inaccuracy in connection with the wording in the definition of selling agency. Another section merely provides for wording to clarify the meaning of the section in the original act, and the remaining provisions are to make it possible for the minister to make any payment which may be necessary as a result of the operation of the act. The act now provides that if under the agreement entered into between the department and the selling agency the wheat is not sold for the full value of the advance, then the minister may pay the difference between the amount for which the wheat was sold and the amount of the advance. But there was no provision in the act giving authority to the minister to make the payment

Wheat Cooperative Marketing

and this section provides that authority. It also enables the minister to make payments on administrative costs.

Topic:   WHEAT COOPERATIVE MARKETING
Subtopic:   CALCULATION OF INITIAL PAYMENTS TO SELLING AGENCIES-AUTHORITY FOR PAYMENT OF LIABILITIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES
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May 28, 1940