May 31, 1940

CON

Mark Cecil Senn

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SENN:

Do I understand that the list of firms read out by the minister include all firms? If so, has the minister any idea of the quantity of goods handled, how much land area would be covered by the operations and how many producers are involved?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I placed certain information on Hansard a moment ago in connection with the volume of honey, alfalfa seed, onions, and fox and mink pelts. In connection with furs it will be noted from the names of the organizations that they are spread pretty well across the eastern part of Canada, covering the maritimes, Quebec and Manitoba.

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CON

Mark Cecil Senn

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SENN:

Would that be all one organization?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

No, there are six organizations in connection with furs.

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

Could the

minister give us any idea as to how many producers have availed themselves of the benefits of this act and what have been the costs of administration of the act?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I just stated that most of these organizations came into being after August, while others were not set up until November, December and January. As yet no organization has completed a full year, so we have not the necessary returns to complete an estimate of the cost of administration.

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

How many producers have availed themselves of the benefits of this legislation? Would not the different cooperatives and selling agencies that have applied for benefits under this act furnish some record of the number of producers they represent?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I have not those figures, but these organizations cover most of the fur producers from the maritime provinces to Manitoba. I think practically all of them are now covered by this legislation. As hon. members know, the alfalfa seed growers are all located in the Whitefox country in northern Saskatchewan, and I think practically

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all of them are now under this legislation. The same thing is true of certain alfalfa growers in Manitoba.

The honey producers are organized into one organization covering about the eastern half of Saskatchewan. The organization has its head offices at Yorkton. The honey producers of Manitoba are also organized under the act, and so are some of the grass seed growers in British Columbia.

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

Has the minister any figures of administration costs to the end of the fiscal year?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

It will be impossible to have them until we get the accounts of the companies themselves.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

Is the hon. member criticizing the act?

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

The hon. member for Essex East (Mr. Martin) seems to have become the custodian of this end of the house. We are interested in trying to get information about the government's administration of its affairs. We were sent here for that purpose, although nobody has yet been able to determine what my hon. friend is here for. I think we have a right to get the information.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

My question was intended as a very serious one.

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

I am sure.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

I usually do not have an opportunity of putting a serious question to my hon. friend, but I was trying to do so to-night. This is an act which I think has great merit. The committee will possibly remember that I took almost one whole afternoon here discussing a problem concerning the corn growers of southwestern Ontario.

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An hon. MEMBER:

It has forgotten

by now.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

But I have not. This act has the great merit of encouraging among the com growers of that part of Ontario a movement somewhat along the lines of that initiated by St. Francis Xavier university. As a result of this act the corn growers got together and formed an association which since July has had, I think, 1,500 paid-up members. They conduct study clubs and run the whole thing by their own efforts. I think the essential credit for this endeavour is due to the inspiration that came from this act, and my reason for putting the question to my hon. friend was to bring out the fact that the act was not without merit. I am glad to find that the new leader of the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation and myself agree on that.

(Mr. Gardiner.]

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

We have no quarrel as to whether there is merit in the act, but we are trying to find out what percentage of the producers have availed themselves of its benefits, whether it is working to the best possible advantage, and whether changes might not be made in it before the bill itself comes down that might give the act a greater appeal among the producers of agricultural products. Surely the hon. member can find no quarrel with us for seeking that type of information.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

I find no quarrel with my hon. friend. He is protesting too much; that is all.

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CCF

Percy Ellis Wright

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. WRIGHT:

Have any guarantees given to producers under this act been equal to the maximum which might have been given?

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May 31, 1940