May 9, 1941


Mr. F. P. WHITMAN (Mount Royal) moved the second reading of Bill No. 31, for the relief of Dorothy Jean Fletcher.


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Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. A. W. NEILL (Comox-Albemi):

I

believe it was this year the hem. member for Rosetown-Biggar (Mr. Coldwell), the hon. member for Waterloo South (Mr. Homuth) and the hon. member for Temiscouata (Mr. Pouliot) spoke on the subject of divorce bills in general. I believe the hon. member for Temiscouata spoke more fully last session.

I should like to make a few remarks on the general principle of the bills, without distinctly opposing any one of them.

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Mr. M. J. COLD WELL@Rosetown-Biggar

Could we have order, please? I cannot hear the hon. member.

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Thomas Langton Church

National Government

Mr. T. L. CHURCH (Broadview):

Mr. Speaker, I rise not for the purpose of opposing this bill, but simply to refer to the principles upon which bills of this kind are founded. I should like to make one or two remarks in this connection. The principle of the senate having jurisdiction-

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Georges Parent (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I take it that the speech just made by the hon. member for Comox-Alberni (Mr. Neill) was opposition to the bill.

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Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

No. I simply said that I

had no opposition to the bill, but I wanted some information.

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Georges Parent (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

There was opposition to

the immediate passage of the bill.

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Mr. M. J. COLD WELL@Rosetown-Biggar

Mr. Speaker-

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Georges Parent (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I am afraid I must rule

that there has been opposition and that this bill must go to the end of the list.

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Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

That is hardly fair. This

wretched man and woman want relief and I am quite ready to give it to them. But I want some information from the sponsor. That will settle the whole matter. I am not opposing the bill. Your Honour did not rule that the bill was being opposed when the hon. member for Rosetown-Biggar (Mr. Cold-well) and the hon. member for Temiscouata (Mr. Pouliot) spoke the other day; you simply accepted their remarks. I cannot see how

Divorce Bills

Your Honour can rule that the bill is opposed when I stated specifically that I was not opposed to it.

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Georges Parent (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

We must come back to

the rules of the house. We are considering the second reading of this bill, and the hon. member has asked a question of the sponsor of the bill. We are not in committee; therefore he may not ask questions. At the moment the opposition is to the passage of the bill, there being a desire for information. I must therefore assume that there is opposition to the bill in the sense of the rules which have been laid down by the house. If there is opposition to any bill it will go to the end of the list.

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Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

I would point out that the

motion of the Prime Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King) does not state that the bills cannot be discussed; it said that they could not be opposed.

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Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

My hon. friend says that he is not opposed to the bill, but he speaks on it; I am opposed to it, but I do not say a word.

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Thomas Langton Church

National Government

Mr. CHURCH:

I rise to a point of order. Do I understand that Your Honour's ruling is that a member cannot ask a question without its being considered that he is opposing the principle of the bill? I contend that the motion under which these bills are being taken up is clearly out of order because it did not have unanimous consent.

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May 9, 1941