July 3, 1942

REPORTS OF COMMITTEES

STANDING ORDERS-CONCURRENCE IN THIRD REPORT

LIB

William Henry Golding

Liberal

Mr. W. H. GOLDING (Huron-Perth) moved:

That the third report of standing committee on standing orders, presented to the house on July 1, be concurred in.

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Motion agreed to.


VOCATIONAL TRAINING-SECOND REPORT


Second report of special committee on vocational training.-Mr. Donnelly.


HONOURS AND DECORATIONS-CONCURRENCE IN FIRST REPORT

LIB

Cyrus Macmillan

Liberal

Hon. CYRUS MACMILLAN (Queens) moved:

That the first report of special committee on honours and decorations, presented to the house on July 2, be concurred in.

Motion agreed to;

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PRIVILEGE-MR. RALSTON REFERENCE TO STATEMENT OF MR. POULIOT IN DEBATE ON JULY 2


On the orders of the day: Hon. J L. RALSTON (Minister of National Defence): Mr. Speaker, on a matter of privilege I should like to make reference to a statement which was made by the hon. member for Temiseouata (Mr. Pouliot) last night about a matter to which he had previously referred but to which I had not paid any attention because a return had already been brought down in the house with respect to it. Some time ago the hon. member indicated that I had met. Sir Edward Peacock in Montreal in June, 1941, and discussed with him the amalgamation of the Canadian National and Canadian Pacific railways. That reference is at pages 3211 and 3212 of Hansard. The member had also intimated that I had met Sir Edward Peacock on that occasion in my capacity as Acting Minister of Finance. A memorandum from my office was quoted by the hon. member at page 4209 of Hansard indicating that I did not meet Sir Edward Peacock on or about June 25, 1941. Notwithstanding the statement made in the memorandum which he himself read, the hon. member brought up the matter again last night and asked the question: Why was the Minister of National Defence appointed Acting Minister of Finance? How is it that the Minister of National Defence has enough spare time to be Acting Minister of Finance? Later he said: I do not see why the Minister of National Defence was appointed as his deputy- That is, deputy to the Minister of Finance. -while Sir Edward Peacock was here. The implication is that by some kind of skullduggery I was appointed acting Minister of Finance in order that I might discuss with Sir Edward Peacock the amalgamation of the railways. I think it best once and for all to deal with all these matters together. I want to say to the house that I was not appointed acting Minister of Finance for any purpose connected in the remotest particular with any discussion of the amalgamation of the railways. My appointment as acting Minister of Finance was made in 1940 and took effect automatically in any case in which the minister was absent: that I never saw or had any communication directly or indirectly with Sir Edward Peacock in June, 1941; that I never at any time saw him, or anyone representing him, in my capacity as acting Minister of Finance; and that I never at any time, either as a member of the government or personally, discussed with Sir Edward Peacock, or anybody representing him, the amalgamation of the Canadian National and the Canadian Pacific railways or anything relating to the railways.


VANCOUVER ISLAND

ENEMY ATTACK UPON ESTEVAN POINT TELEGRAPH STATION ON JUNE 20


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. ANGUS MacINNIS (Vancouver East):

I wish to direct the attention of the Minister of National Defence to representations which have been made to me which indicate that residents on the west coast of British Columbia are disturbed over the length of time it took the military command there to send planes to Estevan Point at the time of the recent shelling of that locality by an enemy raider. Could the minister make a statement which would allay any existing doubts or fears as to the adequacy of our defences to meet such situations as the one mentioned?

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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Hon. J. L. RALSTON (Minister of National Defence):

My hon. friend gave me notice that he would ask a question of this kind. In the absence of my colleague the Minister of National Defence for Air (Mr. Power) I had inquiries made with regard to the messages which were sent on the night in question, and I have satisfied myself that they were sent

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promptly. I would not care to give the house details of all that took place, because I am advised that the information is secret and would be useful to the enemy. But I can say that the messages were sent and were received and that the matter was considered on the spot. The flying conditions were unsuitable at air bases nearest to Estevan Point at the time of the attack, but aircraft were out at dawn next morning and searched the ocean areas off the west coast of Vancouver island, without detecting the enemy ship. A bomber was dispatched from an air base more distant from the point to which the hon. member refers, but it crashed in taking off. The officers advise me that it is doubtful if it could have arrived in time to locate the raider.

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ARMING OF VANCOUVER ISLAND VOLUNTEERS


On the orders of the day:


NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Hon. R. B. HANSON (Leader of the Opposition):

In that same connection, may I make an inquiry of the minister? I have had a communication from a prominent gentleman of Courtney, which I believe is on Vancouver island, regarding the arming of the Rangers, which is a volunteer establishment set up. I believe, for home defence, and especially against invasion. May I ask the minister if any arrangements are being made to issue arms in the nature of, say, rifles and the like, to the Rangers?

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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

Arrangements are being made to issue arms in as great quantities and just as fast as possible. I may say that special arrangements were made the other day with regard to some special arms, in that connection.

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July 3, 1942