February 26, 1943

LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I am anxious to oblige the house. It is entirely a matter of what is likely best to fulfil the wishes of hon. members and best to further public business. The plan on which the government was proceeding was to bring down as soon as possible our financial measures in toto. The estimates are already down. A resolution with respect to the war appropriation has just been advanced a stage from government notices of motion, and will hereafter appear under orders of the day. There is also now upon the order paper a resolution respecting the making of war supplies available for the united nations. In this way we have sought to give the house a complete picture of the sums which the government will ask to have appropriated. The budget will be brought down on Tuesday of next week.

A request has been made that we should establish the standing and select committees as rapidly as possible. Until all the committees are set up and until the house has had the preliminary statements with regard to total expenditures, with the sort of break-down that my hon. friend the leader of the opposition has asked for, so that hon. members may be able to study the details, I do not think we should interrupt the proceedings in order to hold a secret session. If the situation were so pressing that a secret session to discuss other matters would be regarded as more important than proceeding with the government's financial measures for the war, in the manner I have indicated, I would say that we would fix a day for a secret session forthwith; but if there is no situation that is being embarrassed by not having a

Business of the House

secret session at once I think the house would be in a better position to discuss in secret session matters pertaining to the war after it has had before it a complete picture of the financial situation. It is a matter of balancing. I should be glad to talk it over with my hon. friend and other leaders, if they so desire, and see if we cannot perhaps agree on a time that would be best.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR SECRET SESSION
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Thomas Miller Bell

Mr. COLD WELL:

If the Prime Minister will pardon me, I should like to add that what prompted me to ask this question to-day was the fact that there has been a great deal of discussion in the British house, where Sir James Grigg, the minister for war, stated yesterday that the Canadian troops would probably soon be engaged. In view of the discussions which have taken place in the British house regarding equipment, and so on, I think it would satisfy some members of the house if a secret session could be held as soon as possible in order that we may make inquiry regarding certain matters which have come to our attention.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR SECRET SESSION
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APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEES-DEBATE ON THE BUDGET


On the orders of the day:


LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Before proceeding with the orders of the day, in order to continue what I said concerning the proceedings of the house, it may be of assistance to hon. members if I make the matter a little clearer. The Minister of Finance intends to introduce his budget on Tuesday evening. That means that for the remainder of to-day, on Monday, and until the evening of Tuesday, the time of the house will be taken up with other matters. I have felt that it would be furthering the wishes which have been expressed by hon. gentlemen opposite if we devoted that time to endeavouring to get the few remaining committees appointed. Fifteen committees have already been appointed. There remain the five of which notices are already on the order paper, one of which was under discussion yesterday and will continue to be discussed to-day. So that between now and Tuesday evening the first order of business will be the discussion of the setting-up of these different committees. The Minister of Finance proposes to proceed on Wednesday with the motion respecting the war appropriation for the ensuing year, and would like to have the house continue with discussion on that measure unless there are some other matters that it may be necessary to take up in the interval. The minister hopes to be able to make headway with the war appropriation discussion from the time that he proceeds with the resolution in the house.

Topic:   APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEES-DEBATE ON THE BUDGET
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NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GRAYDON:

Will there be no opportunity of criticism with respect to the budget?

Topic:   APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEES-DEBATE ON THE BUDGET
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

There will be opportunity, at great length if necessary, but not immediately after its introduction. The minister does not propose to go on with the discussion of the budget for some little time.

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NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GRAYDON:

Would the Prime Minister gives us some idea as to what he means by "some little time"?

Topic:   APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEES-DEBATE ON THE BUDGET
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

The Minister of Finance will have to answer that.

-Mr. CRERAR: How long will it take to discuss the war appropriation?

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NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GRAYDON:

Do I understand that there will be no reply with respect to the budget until the war appropriation has gone through its stages?

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Oh, no; the Minister of Finance would be in a better position to say at what particular time the debate on the budget ought to be continued. I understand from him that he would like the remainder of the week to be devoted to the war appropriation measure. He feels it would accommodate hon. gentlemen opposite for him to wait until Monday for the debate on the budget to begin.

Topic:   APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEES-DEBATE ON THE BUDGET
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MUNITIONS AND SUPPLY

AMENDMENT OF ACT CHEATING DEPARTMENT- CHART OF DEPARTMENTAL ORGANIZATION


On the orders of the day:


IND

Joseph Sasseville Roy

Independent

Mr. J. SASSEYILLE ROY (Gaspe):

I

should like to ask a question of the Minister of Munitions and Supply in connection with bill No. 7. As this bill is voluminous, would the minister be good enough to supply the members with a chart showing how his department is now organized?

Topic:   MUNITIONS AND SUPPLY
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT OF ACT CHEATING DEPARTMENT- CHART OF DEPARTMENTAL ORGANIZATION
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal

Hon. C. D. HOWE (Minister of Munitions and Supply):

I shall be very glad to have a chart showing the department's organization printed in the Votes and Proceedings.

Topic:   MUNITIONS AND SUPPLY
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT OF ACT CHEATING DEPARTMENT- CHART OF DEPARTMENTAL ORGANIZATION
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RURAL MAIL


On the orders of the day:


NAT

Gordon Knapman Fraser

National Government

Mr. G. K. FRASER (Peterborough West):

I should like to ask a question of the Postmaster General (Mr. Mulock). He is not in the house at the moment but perhaps he would

Canadian Armed Forces

answer on Monday. I understand that representations have been made to the government by the rural mail couriers' organization, relating to permanency of employment, basic salaries and allowances, as well as cost of living bonuses. Will the Postmaster General be good enough to make a statement to the house indicating what consideration has been given to the representations of the rural mail couriers and what decision has been arrived at with respect to the matter?

Topic:   MUNITIONS AND SUPPLY
Subtopic:   RURAL MAIL
Sub-subtopic:   REPRESENTATIONS OF COURIERS AS TO PERMANENCY, SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES, AND COST OF LIVING BONUS
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LIB

Colin William George Gibson (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Hon. C. W. G. GIBSON (Acting Postmaster General):

The Postmaster General is out of the city to-day, but I shall be glad to bring the question to his attention.

Topic:   MUNITIONS AND SUPPLY
Subtopic:   RURAL MAIL
Sub-subtopic:   REPRESENTATIONS OF COURIERS AS TO PERMANENCY, SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES, AND COST OF LIVING BONUS
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February 26, 1943