July 21, 1943

REFERENCE TO ARTICLE IN OTTAWA "CITIZEN" OF JULY 17


Mr. JEAN-FRANQOIS POULIOT (Temis-couata): Mr. Speaker, I rise to a double question of privilege, the first one in English and the other in French. In the Ottawa Citizen of July 17 the daily columnist wrote thus: The development of the day indicated that the terrible-tempered Jean-Fran?ois Pouliot is on the rampage. I do not object to this, sir; it is a matter of opinion. Then he goes on, making three factual errors in two lines: Mr. Pouliot opposed the government candidate in Saguenay last winter. . . . The first factual error is that I opposed no one of the candidates who ran in that county last fall. I opposed no one; I supported one. Then he states that I opposed the government candidate. There was no government candidate there; the government did not give its support to any one of the four candidates in that election. Finally, he mentions Saguenay as the name of the county, when the name is Charlevoix-Saguenay. Then he goes on and says that I aided Mr. Dorion, who was elected as an independent. That is true, and he proved to be one. Then he goes on: Now, it seems, he is out with a new candidate from Stanstead. Here is the point I object to, a little further on: This Stanstead election will be very much of a group affair. There is a racial aspect to it as well. Well, Mr. Speaker, if the independent candidate who has been chosen by the people of Stanstead were running on a racial issue I would surely not support him, and my record in the house proves very well that I have never indulged in any religious or racial controversies of any kind-either in the house or outside of the house. Now I turn to French. In Le Devoir of Monday last, July 19, I see a report of what has been said by someone. (Translation): Mr. Speaker, the Monday issue of Le Devoir contains a summary of a speech delivered by one Philippe Girard, whom I neither know nor wish to know. The summary of that part of his speech which refers to me is as follows: Mr. Pouliot has done very good work in Ottawa;- That is not what prompts me to rise to a question of privilege. -now, he has been ordered by his leader- No order has ever been given to me by any one. I have been glad to oblige my colleagues whenever the opportunity to do so arose. Whoever claims that I have received an order from any one in connection with the Stanstead election is uttering a falsehood. In the second place: -to go to Stanstead in order to divide the Canadians- That is another falsehood. I have never sought to divide the Canadians. I have always advocated harmony between French and English speaking Canadians, between the Canadians who are Protestant and those who are Catholic and even those of the Jewish faith. A third falsehood is this: -and he has selected as independent candidate Mr. Martin, who, four days previously, had told Mr. Choquette that on no account was anything to be done to divide the French Canadians. It is odious for a man to utter such falsehoods in public. It is not true at all that I have selected Mr. Martin. I have never selected any one. I have no more selected Mr. Martin as independent candidate in Stanstead than I have selected Mr. Dorion as independent candidate in Charlevoix-Saguenay, but. for one thing, I am sure that Mr. Martin, like Mr. Dorion, will be elected in Stanstead against any opponent.


JAPANESE TREATY ACT

REPEAL OF STATUTE OF 1913


Hon. L. S. ST. LAURENT (Minister of Justice) moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 137, to repeal the Japanese Treaty Act, 1913.


NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GRAYDON:

Will the minister explain?

Mr. ST. LAURENT: A treaty of commerce and navigation was signed between the United Kingdom and Japan on April 3, 1911, and it was adhered to by Canada. The Japanese Treaty Act, 1913, was adopted in that year, declaring the treaty to have the force of law in Canada. A notice, in accordance with the terms of the treaty, to put an end to it was given on July 26, 1941, and according to the terms of the treaty this notice would have become effective on July 26, 1942. In the meantime war was declared between Japan and Canada, and according to the principles of international law the effect of the treaty came to an end with the declaration of war. But the statute is still .on the books, and this is a one-line bill to repeal the statute which gave force of law to that treaty in Canada in 1913.

Japanese Treaty Act

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NAT

Thomas Langton Church

National Government

Mr. CHURCH:

Have similar trade treaties with Italy, Germany and other axis powers been repealed?

Mr. ST. LAURENT: It is not to my knowledge that there is any legislation giving the effect of law to treaties with Germany and Italy.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

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LIB

Thomas Vien (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

When shall the bill be read a second time?

Mr. ST. LAURENT: Later this day.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Now.

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NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GRAYDON:

No one has had a copy of the bill. I would think it a most unusual request to ask hon. members to deal with any legislar tion where a copy has not been provided for them, and I object to it.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

It is only one line.

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NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GRAYDON:

The principle is the same, surely, whether it is one line or a hundred lines.

Mr. ST. LAURENT: Later this day. QUESTIONS

(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)

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FOURTH VICTORY LOAN

NAT

Mr. HAZEN:

National Government

1. Were any subscriptions to the fourth victory loan made by "individuals" or "nonindividuals" residing or having their head offices outside of Canada?

2. If so, how much was subscribed, (a) by these "individuals"; (b) by these "nonindividuals"?

3. In what countries did they live or have their head offices?

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Douglas Charles Abbott (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

I spoke to the hon. member who asked this question and explained that to give a complete answer would involve an examination of 2,669,000 application forms in respect, of the last victory loan. I understand that under the circumstances he is willing to drop the question.

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NAT

Douglas King Hazen

National Government

Mr. HAZEN:

The parliamentary assistant to the Minister of Finance spoke to me about the difficulty of answering this question. If you will permit me, Mr. Speaker, I think the minister will agree with me when I say that we do not want our war loans to be made outside of Canada to any greater extent than necessity compels, and that some method should be devised of keeping track of these loans and knowing where they are being made. If the question results in some system by

which a record can be made so that we shall know who are taking up these loans, I think it will have furthered its purpose.

Question dropped.

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ARMY TECHNICAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD

PC

Mr. ADAMSON:

Progressive Conservative

1. Who are the director-general and deputy director-general of the army technical development board?

2. What are the technical qualifications of each?

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LIB

Mr. MACDONALD (Halifax): (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

1. Director-General, Mr. J. E. Hahn; Deputy Director-General, Mr. J. H. Crang.

2. Of Mr. J. E. Hahn are: Educated, university of Toronto and Osgoode Hall; served in France as brigade major, 11th Canadian Infantry brigade in great war; successful manufacturer of electrical instruments, foundry products, machine guns and rifles.

Of Mr. J. H. Crang are: two years at Technical School, Toronto; two years at Upper Canada college, Toronto; artillery officer in Canadian militia for many years; assistant director of artillery, Ottawa, June to November, 1942; intimate knowledge of firearms acquired over the last thirty years; for considerable time closely associated with manufacturing concerns producing steel products.

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CANADIAN ARMY-ORDNANCE

July 21, 1943