May 19, 1944

PRIVILEGE-MR. COLDWELL REFERENCE TO REMARKS OF MR. REID IN DEBATE ON MAY 16

CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. M. J. COLDWELL (Rosetown-Biggar):

On Tuesday afternoon, at page 2852 of Hansard, the hon. member for New Westminster (Mr. Reid) made this statement:

I said that I had no direct proof about those three papers-[DOT]

That is, the Province, the News-Herald and the Sun.

*-but that I did have some proof about the Fraser valley. That is the record and the hon. member knows it. He endeavoured by reading the record to leave the inference that I had deliberately lied in the House of Commons.

I may say I did not do that.

He just cannot get away with that. He has got away with a lot, but he is not going to get away with anything of that kind as long as I have breath in my body.

That was a reflection upon me, Mr. Speaker. I now have a telegram from Coquitlam, British Columbia, addressed to myself, reading as follows:

Personal check-up with publishers shows no papers in Fraser valley federal constituency were threatened as Tom Reid suggests. Coquitlam Herald, Haney Gazette, Agassiz Advance, Mission Record, Chilliwack Progress, Abbotsford News. Use information as you desire.

That is signed by George W. Shelldrake, of Haney, British Columbia, who is on the staff of the Valley Press Publishers. The News-Herald in an editorial of May 15, 1944 states:

In that connection it should be said that at no time has this newspaper been officially approached by the C.C.F. party along the line indicated.

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LIB

Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. THOMAS REID (New Westminster):

I have not one word to take back, Mr. Speaker. I stand by every word I said, and I do not propose to retract anything. I have confidence that those who have known me longest will realize and believe that what I said was true.

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Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. THOMAS REID (New Westminster):

Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of privilege. When the house opened this afternoon the leader of the C.C.F. read a telegram he had received from Vancouver from a man named Shelldrake, who, I understand, signs himself as C.C.F. organizer for the Fraser Valley. I rise particularly on this occasion because I hold before me .a copy of the Vancouver News-Herald of Saturday, May 13, in which this newspaper recites what I had said in the House of Commons; and here is the statement it makes:

The management of the News-Herald has not been officially approached on the subject by the C.C.F. party, but a number of subscribers who said they were adherents of the party have telephoned and stated they would cancel their subscriptions unless a more favourable attitude toward the C.C.F. party was adopted.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

Mr. Speaker, apparently

this paper has written two articles.

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?

Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

Just a moment; the article from which I quoted did not contain that.

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Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE (Vancouver Centre):

This is news.

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Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. REID:

This is the News-Herald. This is one of the papers I mentioned, and this article substantiates the statement I made in the House of Commons.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

The only paper I had on Tuesday was the Vancouver Province.

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LIB

Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. REID:

I hope you keep up the

argument.

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RAILWAY COMMITTEE


First report of standing committee on railways, canals and telegraph lines.-Mr. Dupuis.


ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE

ANNOUNCEMENT OF DEATH OF SIX OFFICERS WHILE PRISONERS OF WAR IN GERMANY


Hon. L. S. ST. LAURENT (Acting Secretary of State for External Affairs): On behalf of the Secretary of State for External Affairs I wish to take this opportunity to inform the house with deep regret of a shocking incident involving the death of six officers of the Royal Canadian Air Force who were prisoners of war in Germany, at a camp near Dresden, Stalag Luft III. The following statement was made War Policy in the British House of Commons this morning by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Eden. I deeply regret to have to tell the house that his majesty's government have received information from the protecting power that forty-seven air force offices of the Royal Air Force and of the Royal Canadian, Australian, New ' Zealand and South African air forces have been shot by the Germans after a mass escape from Stalag Luft III. According to the information given to a representative of the protecting power by the German authorities, in the course of a routine visit to this camp on the 17th April, seventy-six officers had escaped from Stalag Luft III on the 22nd March. Of these seventy-six officers fifteen had been recaptured, fourteen were still at large and forty-seven had been shot, some whilst resisting arrest and some in the course of a new attempt to escape after capture. His majesty's government are profoundly shocked at this news and have urgently requested the protecting power to demand from the German government a full and immediate report of the circumstances in which these men met their death and an explanation of its failure to report the facts at once to the protecting power. The names of the officers shot were furnished to the representative of the protecting power on the occasion of his visit and the next of kin have been informed. The house will wish me to express its deep sympathy with the relatives of these most gallant men. That is the end of Mr. Eden's statement. There are some points I wish to add. First, the next of kin of the members of the Royal Canadian Air Force who thus met their deaths have been informed, and their names have been given to the press. Second, as soon as word was received in Ottawa the Canadian government joined in the urgent request to the protecting power mentioned in Mr. Eden's statement, that a full and immediate report of the circumstances be demanded from the German government, and an explantion of the failure to report the facts at once to the protecting power. Third, I am sure I shall be expressing the feeling of the Canadian government and of this house when I say that we too are profoundly shocked at this news and that we wish to extend our deep sympathy and regret to the relatives of the brave Canadians who lost their lives in these distressing circumstances.


NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GORDON GRAYDON (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I join with the minister in the words of sympathy he has uttered for the next of kin who have been aggrieved as he has announced to-day. It just shows the type of people we are fighting in this war. And more than that, may I say it shows, too, in bold contrast, the difference

between the way the Germans have treated those prisoners and the way we have treated their prisoners over here.

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WAR POLICY

MOTION, MR. POULIOT, FOR ADJOURNMENT UNDER STANDING ORDER 31


Mr. JEAN-FRANQOIS POULIOT (Temiscouata): Mr. Speaker, I desire to move the adjournment of the house for the following reasons: Whereas, the Prime Minister of Canada, in his address to members of both houses of parliament, at Westminster, on May 11, 1944, declared: Canada's war effort is a voluntary effort, . . . Our country has become increasingly proud of the fact that every fighting man from Canada serving across the seas, on the seas, and in the air is a volunteer. We can say, in very truth, that Canada's effort in this war is a voluntary effort. Whereas, the Prime Minister of Canada, in an address delivered at Winnipeg on July 10, 1941, declared: What has already been attempted in the way of reviving that issue (of conscription) at this time makes only too clear the advantage that might have been taken of a lengthy absence on my part from Canada, to force the issue into the arena of party strife. How dire the consequences to our national unity this might have proved none can say. Whereas, on April 27, 1944, two members of parliament asked for information on the orders of the day about the pressure to induce or coerce the personnel of various units to enlist for overseas service in the absence of the Prime Minister from Canada; Whereas, the following day, a similar question was put by another member of parliament; Whereas, in both instances the acting leader of the government did commit himself in his answer; Whereas, according to a dispatch of the Canadian Press of April 27, 1944, Brigadier W. H. S. Macklin blamed the draftees who had not volunteered, and did not allow them to take part in a victory loan parade; Whereas, the pressure and intimidation exercised by commanding officers at the Vernon, British Columbia, training centre to coerce the draftees to enlist for overseas service have been such that the city council of Quebec passed a resolution of protest, on May 12, in order that the voluntary policy expounded by the Prime Minister of Canada at Westminster should be carried on even during his absence from Canada; I ask leave to move the adjournment of the house, under standing order 31, for the pur- War Policy


May 19, 1944