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June 19, 1944

CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

They are certified now?

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HOWE:

Yes.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

I am afraid that in future they might be classified as technical employees. The engineers across Canada have a claim before the board now-

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HOWE:

Does my hon. friend refer to railway engineers?

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

No.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HOWE:

Professional engineers?

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

Yes; they are tangled up on that basis. Just a short clause stating that they have the right to make trade union agreements and to organize would protect them. Of course, if they are certified now and have bargaining rights under the code, that is fine; but I should like to see it included in the bill. That code can be changed at any time.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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Mr. HOW E@

I doubt if my hon. friend is speaking for labour organizations now. I have never been asked to include a labour code in an act.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

I doubt if there is anyone in the labour movement in Canada who would not want a clause provided in connection with an industry that will be as important in the future as aviation, stating that the employees of this industry have the right to bargain collectively. That is all it amounts to.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HOWE:

I will say this, that the pilots' organization is very wide awake; the association nas had time to apply for the protection

my hon. friend suggests, but it has not done so. To me this is an indication that it is not greatly interested in having a clause of that kind inserted.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

They take it for granted that in the government set-up they will have that right. The people I am speaking of are those who may be employed by the feeder lines which this board will license and who will not come under the government set-up.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

I take it that they have that right now.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HOWE:

They have that right now.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

Anyone working on the line.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

But this board has the right to license other lines.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
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Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

I should like that cleared up. I take it that all employees) whether they are on the feeder lines or on t'he government line, will have the right to join a labour organization and to carry on collective bargaining.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HOWE:

Yes, they have the right to collective bargaining; they can be certified by the board, and the provisions of the labour relations act will apply. There is no doubt about that. The idea is firmly established all through the aircraft industry among the airmen, the mechanics and all other branches. It is well understood that there are recognized unions certified as bargaining agents, and that anyone who applies to be certified can qualify. There is no question about it.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

Does that apply to the C.P.A.

lines too?

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. HOWE:

Yes.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

It does not apply to both railway lines. Certain employees of the Canadian Pacific have not bargaining rights, while comparable employees of the Canadian National have.

Topic:   AERONAUTICS ACT
Subtopic:   CIVIL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICES- AIR TRANSPORT BOARD
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June 19, 1944