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November 30, 1945

CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

The same thing, new business under new management, the same old business operating for forty years though. I am a little sceptical on that point. With regard' to throwing the responsibility back into the-hands of lawyers again, who interpret the lawr that is their job, and it is fine, but I should like to ask anyone in this committee this; question: Who is better qualified to interpret what the income tax laws or the excess profits tax laws mean than the people who write them?

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Alan Cockeram

Progressive Conservative
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Mr. COCKERAM:

If they knew what it was it would be all right,

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Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

Absolutely: On the other

hand, if I am living in Vancouver or in Nova Scotia and I have a dispute with the income-tax department I can wend my way over to-a lawyer's office, pay him $100 and get some advice, and six months later I will get ai decision which he gets from the income tax department. That is where he gets it.' On the other hand, if I want to sit down and write the deputy minister of taxation, to whom I often write, any time I write to him I get a fair and reasonable explanation of any tax problem that may be bothering anyone and it costs me nothing but a four-cent stamp.

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An hon. MEMBER:

Sometimes a month later.

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Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal
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Mr. MACKENZIE:

That is a new industry

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Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

That is the decision the

lawyer would get. And, mind you, a great many of them write asking me to get in touch with the finance department to obtain decisions in certain matters, and I do so. You know .lawyers are smart, for themselves. I should like to ask the hon. member for Rosedale, is he prepared to recommend to

Excess Profits Tax

the Minister of Labour when he comes back to the house that we immediately remove the wage controls?

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

That we lift the ceiling? Is he prepared to recommend to the Minister of Finance that we remove price controls and abandon the Donald Gordon set-up?

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Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. SMITH (Calgary West):

On a point of order, Mr. Chairman, is this relevant to this discussion? I will give the hon. gentleman my answers to those questions, if he wants them.

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Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

I am not asking the hon. member. I am speaking to you, Mr. Chairman, and through you to the Minister of Finance.

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Harry Rutherford Jackman

Progressive Conservative
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Mr. JACKMAN:

I have been asked a

question-

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Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. SMITH (Calgary West):

May I have a ruling on my point of order?

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Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

They just can't take it.

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William Henry Golding

Liberal
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The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. Golding):

The hon. member should not be interrupted without his permission.

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Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. SMITH (Calgary West):

I rose to a point of order.

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William Henry Golding

Liberal
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The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. Golding):

I would point out to the hon. member for Cape Breton South that in discussing this resolution his argument must be relevant to it.

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Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

That is what I was trying to do.

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Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. MACKENZIE:

Without success.

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. GILLIS:

We have been sitting here since some time yesterday while hon. gentlemen to my right have had possession of the floor. I listened to the discussion of private enterprise, the right to jobs, the danger of this legislation-

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Harry Rutherford Jackman

Progressive Conservative
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. JACKMAN:

Hear, hear.

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November 30, 1945