Mr. MacINNIS:

Not in my hearing, in any event. But let us take the hon. member for Vancouver South. The hon. member for Lake Centre would wag his finger -and shake his head and point at the Minister of Justice and say, "What are you going to do about this?" Then the hon. member for Vancouver South

would stretch himself half-way across the floor and say to the Minister of Veterans Affairs, "Are you going to carry out the government's policy in regard to the Japanese?" That government policy was put'into effect by orders in council after this house had rejected it. Either we have to be honest with ourselves, or we cannot be honest with anybody else. You can fool everybody but yourself. You cannot fool yourself; and when you are dishonest with yourself you are dishonest with everybody.

Mr. GREEN:

On a question of privilege, Mr. Chairman, I am sure the hon. member does not mean to insinuate that I was dishonest in my stand. If he does, I ask that he withdraw.

Mr. MacINNIS:

I am not insinuating in regard to anybody in particular. I am merely stating a fact, and anybody who feels that this statement of fact applies to him is entitled to take that position.

Mr. GREEN:

The hon. member has now made it perfectly clear that he is out of order, and that he must withdraw his statement. If he were referring to a party I would not care, because a party has to take abuse of that type, but here he is referring to an hon. member and I submit that he must withdraw.

The CHAIRMAN:

I understood the hon. member for Vancouver East to say definitely that' he was not referring to any particular person.

Mr. GREEN:

But he went on to say that if any hon. member wanted to accept it he could do so, or words to that effect. He must withdraw that statement.

Mr. MacINNIS:

I said I made a statement of fact, and if anybody wished to apply that statement of fact to himself that was not my business.

Mr. GREEN:

That is not so, I believe.

The CHAIRMAN:

I do not see anything out of order in that, and I cannot ask the hon. member to withdraw.

Progress reported.

Mr. MACKENZIE:

To-morrow we shall

take up bill No. 7 at the commencement of the proceedings. After the conclusion of that measure we shall take up any second readings of the minor bills on the order paper.