May 20, 1946

PRIVILEGE

PRIVATE RADIO STATIONS AND WAVE LENGTHS

PC

Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative

Mr. A. L. SMITH (Calgary West):

Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of privilege. It is incidental only to myself, but I think it affects the rights and privileges of every hon. member of this house. On Thursday last I asked the Minister of National Revenue (Mr. McCann) if the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation were buying three large broadcasting outfits, and if it were the intention that the wave lengths of from one to three stations were to be taken away from the people who at present own them. At that time the minister replied that this was a matter of government policy, and in short refused to answer. That was on Thursday. On Saturday I read in the newspapers the answers to the questions I had asked. My view is that hon. members of this house do not deserve to be treated with that kind of contempt.

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LIB

James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue; Minister of National War Services)

Liberal

Hon. J. J. McCANN (Minister of National Revenue):

I am sorry the hon. member insinuates that I treated him or anybody else with contempt. I had no such idea; I gave him the answer as I knew it. So far as the report in the newspapers is concerned, I am not in a position either to confirm or to deny it.

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PC

Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative

Mr. SMITH (Calgary West):

It came from you, according to the newspapers.

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LIB

James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue; Minister of National War Services)

Liberal

Mr. McCANN:

My dear friend, if you

believe all you see in the newspapers then you will be able to eat all you see there.

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PC

Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative

Mr. SMITH (Calgary West) :

Then deny it, if you wish.

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LIB

James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue; Minister of National War Services)

Liberal

Mr. McCANN:

It did not come from me.

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REPLY OF MINISTER OF RECONSTRUCTION TO QUESTION CONCERNING COAL

PC

Lawrence Wilton Skey

Progressive Conservative

Mr. L. W. SKEY (Trinity):

A few days ago I addressed a question to the Minister of Reconstruction (Mr. Howe) on the subject of coal. Within the hour a statement was given to the press banning the use of soft coal in public buildings, and so on. At that time the minister did not take the opportunity to elaborate in answer to my question, though he must have been aware that this announcement would be made wijhin a few moments of the time the question was put to him here in the house. I feel that this is another case in which the house has been overlooked as a medium for public information.

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LIB

James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Right Hon. J. L. ILSLEY (Acting Prime Minister):

I want to call the attention of the house to the fact that the Minister of Reconstruction is not in his place. If he were here, no doubt he would be in a position to answer the statement just made.

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WORLD SHORTAGE

CANADIAN PLANS FOR INCREASED SUPPLIES


Right Hon. 'J. L. ILSLEY (Acting Prime Minister): Mr. Speaker, discussions of the world food situation have taken place over the week-end between members of the Canadian government and Mr. Herbert Morrison, M.P., Lord President of the Council, of the United * Kingdom, who came to Ottawa for this purpose following similar discussions with United States representatives in Washington at which the Canadian ambassador was present. The Canadian government has taken note of the joint statement issued by the United Kingdom and the United States on May 17, following Mr. Morrison's discussions in Washington and has expressed general agreement with the proposals it contains for continuing consultation and collaboration to meet the world food crisis. During the discussions in Ottawa the steps already taken by Canada and the United Kingdom to alleviate the disastrous effects of world food shortages were reviewed and broad lines of future policy were discussed. The maximum supplies of bread grains that are at present likely to be available from May through to September, 1946 have been assessed at some ten million tons, of which Canada expects to supply 2-3 million tons. Screened requirements for the same period were expected to total 13-4 million tons leaving a deficiency of 3-4 million tons or about 25 per cent. A further intensive review and scaling down of these requirements to the barest minimum needs are likely to reduce the gap over this five-months period to something under one million tons. Inevitably severe hardship will result and great danger of famine will continue. The Canadian government has agreed to associate itself with the United Kingdom and the United States governments in maintaining constant review of the situation, and to put forth its best efforts to secure and make available additional supplies of grain. The Canadian ministers described the comprehensive programme of agricultural production and of conservation of food which their government is carrying out to meet this situation. In anticipation of the urgent world need for food that would arise immediately following the conclusion of the war, Canadian food production had been expanded during the war years. This high rate of expanded production has been maintained and in some cases even increased. Wheat acreage has been raised to a very high level. Rationing and restrictions on sales of certain foods to help provide more for export were continued and even extended; meat rationing was reimposed. Complete control of agricultural products, in particular grains, has been retained in order to ensure that as much food as possible may be made available to the hungry of other nations. When, some months ago, it became apparent that the expected serious food situation in the world would be greatly aggravated by drought in large areas, and by other difficulties, the Canadian government took still further steps to meet the threat of famine. On March 17 the Prime Minister announced a nine-point programme upon which the Canadian government had decided in order to increase supplies of foodstuffs for export. This programme included: 1. Reduction by 10 per cent below 1945 of wheat released for human consumption in Canada. 2. Reduction by 50 per cent of wheat released for distilleries. 3. Special income tax arrangements to encourage immediate marketing of wheat stored on farms. 4. Measures to release increased quantities of oats and No. 4 wheat for export. 5. Special priorities for rail transport of wheat for export. 6. Modification of regulations affecting bulk shipment of flour and feed. 7. A campaign to urge Canadian farmers to plan their production to obtain the maximum yield of foodstuffs over the next four years. Food-World Shortage



8. A campaign for the reduction of inventories of wheat and wheat products. 9. A campaign to encourage consumer savings, avoidance of waste, and development of home gardens. This programme has been put into effect and is already producing encouraging results. Other special action has also been taken by the government. For example, further wheat is being diverted from producers of both potable and industrial alcohol to the extent that substitutes become available; additional efforts to reduce use of wheat for animal feeds are being made. The United Kingdom representatives described the efforts being put forth in the United Kingdom. Consumer rationing has been continued and over a wide field rations are now below low wartime levels. The rations of home-based United Kingdom forces have been reduced. The extraction rate of flour has been raised several times and will be maintained at 90 per cent during the critical May to September period. Supplies of grain for distilling have been cut from 300,000 tons to 130,000 tons. The size of loaves has been reduced, while production of biscuits, cakes and pastry has been substantially curtailed. Beer production has been set at 90 per cent of prewar production. Cereal production is being encouraged and a number of special directions and inducements have recently been introduced to this end. Feeding of millable wheat to live stock remains prohibited and rations for livestock have been cut down. Consumers are being encouraged to conserve food and to reduce waste. Further, the United Kingdom has recently agreed to forego another 200,000 tons of imports which will thus be released for use elsewhere. This has been done with full awareness of the dangers to the United Kingdom in the way of still further interruptions of distribution or restrictions on the austere diet obtaining in the United Kingdom for the six years since the beginning of the war. The Canadian and United Kingdom governments agree that every effort must be put forth to remove completely the threat of world famine, a threat which will continue at least until the harvests of 1947 become available. The two governments agree that they will continue to collaborate through the combined food board or other appropriate agencies to this end. They will continue to consult on measures of major importance which may be found necessary to meet the present world food shortage.


PC

John Bracken (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. JOHN BRACKEN (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I am aware that the statement which the Acting Prime Minister

has just made is not supposed to be debatable, but perhaps the house would permit me to make one or two observations.

I want to commend the government for this announcement, and for its plan for further consultation and cooperation in this crisis with the governments of the United Kingdom and the United States. I can see no harm in the minister's restatement of the government's policy with respect to increasing the supply of food under these circumstances. I might just point out in passing, however, that when the minister says the Canadian people have put in a higher acreage of wheat in recent years, that has not been done because of, but rather in spite of, government policy.

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

On a point of order, is this debatable?

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The statement made by the Acting Prime Minister is not debatable. It has been the practice, however, to permit the leader of the opposition to ask certain questions. I have always been generous in that respect, but I cannot permit any debate.

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PC

John Bracken (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. BRACKEN:

Mr. Speaker, you did permit the Acting Prime Minister to make a very important statement. I now ask Your Honour: Are you going to deny me the opportunity of commenting upon it? If you are, I take my seat.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

As I have already said, it is well known practice in the house that statements made by ministers at this stage of the proceedings, are not debatable. I thought it was my duty to permit the leader of the opposition to ask certain questions, or to ask for information, but I cannot permit debate.

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May 20, 1946